New to Coal and Not Sure How to Regulate House Temp

 
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Post by joecoal » Fri. Feb. 13, 2009 12:28 pm

I just got my first coal stove hopper fed but I am having trouble controling the heat in the house my first day I was at 93 (80 ish on second floor) I am now getting about a 10 degre shift on the main floor from day to night any help would be great thanks


 
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Post by CapeCoaler » Fri. Feb. 13, 2009 12:37 pm

Baro damper?
A picture of your setup will help.
Try closing the ash door air door a bit and use the back damper more to regulate the temps better.

 
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Post by joecoal » Fri. Feb. 13, 2009 12:49 pm

pardon my ignorance (and my spelling) what is a baro damper? I have the ash pan great in frount a door in the back the is controled by a dile and a blower the is also controled by a speed control

 
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Post by CapeCoaler » Fri. Feb. 13, 2009 1:08 pm

Baro damper
http://www.fieldcontrols.com/draftcontrol.php

The powered fan only washes heat off the stove and does nothing* to the burning of coal, for the most part.

Front air should be only to maintain minimal fire.

Back air controls most of the air and can therefore control the room temps.

 
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Post by WNY » Fri. Feb. 13, 2009 1:12 pm

Coal doesn't respond like a standard gas/oil heating unit. it takes time to heat up and cool down (like over an hour sometimes). So, you have to make minor air adjustments and watch your temperatures to get it to regulate correctly.

 
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Post by joecoal » Fri. Feb. 13, 2009 1:28 pm

ok so I have the font great open a little and just adj the back door open and sut to control the temp or should the frount great be all the way open or sut this is a lot of help thank you

 
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Post by CapeCoaler » Fri. Feb. 13, 2009 1:45 pm

Front opening should be about the size of a pencil to start.
If the room is at 70* and that is a good temp for you the the back air should be just about shut.
Leave it be for an hour and see how it does if the temp still rises close the back air a bit more.
If it is falling open just a bit.


 
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Post by joecoal » Fri. Feb. 13, 2009 1:55 pm

then what is the funtion of the fan and how fast should the system go through coal I am using about a 1 and a half to 2 40# bags a day is that high low or about right

 
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Post by WNY » Fri. Feb. 13, 2009 2:43 pm

The fan is for blowing the heat into the room.

Usage - It all depends on how warm you keep your house and how cold outside, your insualtion, etc...
Every heating situation is different. I can rip thru 60-80+ in 24 hours in my stoker stove when it's 15 or less outside.

 
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Post by joecoal » Fri. Feb. 13, 2009 3:04 pm

one more quistion should my hopper back flash when I open it or is it just nature of the hopper to do that it falshes almost every time I open it

 
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Post by Jim503RI » Fri. Feb. 13, 2009 6:23 pm

You should open your drafts to get a hotter fire first, then pull or rock the hopper lid open slowly . That's what works for me. I believe it's the volatile gases building up. New to coal myself this year.After 30 years of burning wood I'll never go back. Good luck. Everything
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Post by GRinRI » Fri. Feb. 13, 2009 8:18 pm

OK, so first of all I see you have a Hitzer. Nice! You've got a stove that's a little easyer to learn with. The dial in the back is really what is going to control how hot your stove gets. Lower numbers repesent a lower heat setting. Do not use the air vents in the ash door unless you're "livening up" your fire before shaking. Personaly I do not feel the need to "liven" my fire if it's burning well in the first place. If your fire is burning hot, you will probably be shaking out a lot of ash. That means you'll be "loading" a lot of fresh coal on top of your fire. You can let the stove be while the fresh coal ignites or you can speed it up a little with the ash door/vents. You can open the ash door or just the vents in the ash door to help light the fresh coal a little faster. I open the door untill my flue pipe gets to 350 degrees, then I close the door and the manual damper and the stove is good to go. I've used the vents but I find it to easy to forget that I've opened them. The open door is hard to forget because it's easy to see it open. Use the circulating fan if you want more heat from the stove. If your house is too hot turn the dial to a lower number and shut the fan off. I see almost 10 degrees difference when I run the fan. I don't really need it untill it gets into the teens. Opening the hopper should be done slowly to allow the flamable gasses to vent up the flue. Open the manual damper before you open the hopper, so the gasses have an easy exit when you slowly open the hopper door.

 
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Post by Freddy » Fri. Feb. 13, 2009 9:12 pm

There is a bit of a learning curve. Be patient. In short order you'll be thinking "This is so sweet!".

 
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Post by joecoal » Fri. Feb. 20, 2009 7:35 am

I am having a lot of problem with my fire at night I go to bed about midnight and by 5 or 6 in the morning my fire is almost out I have empted my hopper and I can go from an empty ash pan to a full ash pan what am I doing wrong?

 
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Post by CapeCoaler » Fri. Feb. 20, 2009 10:50 am

If you use a full hopper and the stove is almost out in 6 hours you...
Have too much air going thru the stove and it is going up the chimney
or
The stove is too small for the area you are heating.
Pictures of the install, the size of what you are heating, room temps and stove temps.


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