What's more important?

Re: What's more important?

PostBy: GRinRI On: Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:32 pm

I run one between the stove and manual damper and one on each side of the stove. I've put one above the baro and noticed the temps were at least 100 degrees lower. If I knew a practical way to put one in the chimeny, I probably would. I like to know what's going on all over the system.
I agree with grizzly2. Stack temp drops when the circulator fan is running. I've been thinking that the reason was that the pipe runs through the air chamber and the air is washing the heat off of the pipe along with washing heat from the back of the stove. Kinda like one of those heat reclaimers. It's gotta be sucking the heat from the exaust gasses if the heat is getting sucked from the pipe surface. Anyway, just my thoughs.
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Re: What's more important?

PostBy: Devil505 On: Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:54 pm

GRinRI wrote:I run one between the stove and manual damper and one on each side of the stove.


Not being wise here but what do the 2 thermometers (one on each side of the stove) tell you that helps in running your stove better than just looking at the coal bed? (one side is almost always burning better than the other)
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Re: What's more important?

PostBy: GRinRI On: Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:02 am

Devil505 wrote:
GRinRI wrote:I run one between the stove and manual damper and one on each side of the stove.


Not being wise here but what do the 2 thermometers (one on each side of the stove) tell you that helps in running your stove better than just looking at the coal bed? (one side is almost always burning better than the other)


If the temp difference gets to be too much, for too long, I'll know (or start thinking) that it's getting time to poke.
Most everyone here knows how hot they run their stove. I just wanted to know how hot it is on both sides. If the cooler side is the side with the bi metal air control, the hot side runs that much higher because the bi metal spring doesn't get up to temp. Now I know how much higher it is. If the hot side happens to be on the air control side, the stove struggles to get up to temp because the spring gets up to temp before the cool side gets going.

Do the two of them give a better idea than looking at the fire? I think so. I could get by without them and did just fine with just one thermometer on the stack. I didn't mean to imply they are needed. I just LIKE to know what's going on and I do think the help with the guess work and learning a new stove.
The thermometers were only $11 each. (Condor Woodsaver) they are black and look good on the stove. The only negative side is that I now seem obsessive. (I think I am)
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Re: What's more important?

PostBy: Devil505 On: Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:14 am

GRinRI wrote:The only negative side is that I now seem obsessive. (I think I am)


Not at all! (That's why I like having 4 separate speedometers attached to each wheel of my car.....so I'm sure that all 4 wheels are under the speed limitt!!) :lol:

Oooopps......Gotta run........my 427 alarm clocks are going off! (kind of a pain because by the time I set the last one.....it's time for bed again! :mad: )
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Re: What's more important?

PostBy: GRinRI On: Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:36 am

Devil505 wrote:
GRinRI wrote:The only negative side is that I now seem obsessive. (I think I am)


Not at all! (That's why I like having 4 separate speedometers attached to each wheel of my car.....so I'm sure that all 4 wheels are under the speed limitt!!) :lol:

Oooopps......Gotta run........my 427 alarm clocks are going off! (kind of a pain because by the time I set the last one.....it's time for bed again! :mad: )


:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: What's more important?

PostBy: stonyloam On: Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:23 pm

Thermometers serve one other very important function.... They keep us all from going crazy from not knowing :) . After reading this forum for the last few weeks I would be willing to bet that we, EVERY ONE OF US check the thermometer EVERY time we go near the stove. You could call it the comfort factor for the coal fired mind.

Keep on burning!

Terry
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Re: What's more important?

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:16 pm

Hello!
My name is * and I have a thermometer problem.
I have four thermometers on my stove.
I check them every time I load.
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Re: What's more important?

PostBy: Devil505 On: Mon Feb 16, 2009 5:28 pm

CapeCoaler wrote:Hello!
My name is * and I have a thermometer problem.
I have four thermometers on my stove.
I check them every time I load.


I'll bet you have a few digital cameras too.....so you can take pictures of the other cameras! :lol:
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Re: What's more important?

PostBy: GRinRI On: Mon Feb 16, 2009 5:38 pm

Devil505 wrote:I'll bet you have a few digital cameras too.....so you can take pictures of the other cameras! :lol:


That gives me a great idea! I'm gonna take pictures of my thermometers so I can look at them while I'm at work!
Thanks Devil!
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Re: What's more important?

PostBy: grizzly2 On: Mon Feb 16, 2009 5:44 pm

Will 8 fishing poles in a bass boat catch more fish than 3 poles in a bass boat? No. However the fisherman enjoys experimenting with a variety of rods and reels. I think many of us enjoy the act of burning coal as much as the economical heat derived from it. Part of our involvement with this activity is observing and monitoring what is happening under a variety of conditions. Along with learning more about our stoves and coal, it is just plain interesting and entertaining to monitor our gauges, dampers, drafts and flames. People don't buy stoves with windows because they heat better.

So buy the accessories that entertain and enlighten you. Enjoy the coal (or wood, or pellet, or corn) burning experience to the fullest :!: :nana:
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Re: What's more important?

PostBy: Devil505 On: Mon Feb 16, 2009 5:55 pm

GRinRI wrote:That gives me a great idea! I'm gonna take pictures of my thermometers so I can look at them while I'm at work!
Thanks Devil!



Your welcome!

I have a better idea......Someone posted a pic of his living room setup with a computer cam always left on & aimed at his stove. On the internet (from work) he just punches in the correct url & he can watch his stove, thermometer & dogs.....LIVE! :lol:
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Re: What's more important?

PostBy: GRinRI On: Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:21 pm

Devil505 wrote:
GRinRI wrote:That gives me a great idea! I'm gonna take pictures of my thermometers so I can look at them while I'm at work!
Thanks Devil!



Your welcome!

I have a better idea......Someone posted a pic of his living room setup with a computer cam always left on & aimed at his stove. On the internet (from work) he just punches in the correct url & he can watch his stove, thermometer & dogs.....LIVE! :lol:


I think I saw that here too and I thought of it after my last post. I don't thing one web cam would do it though.
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Re: What's more important?

PostBy: Devil505 On: Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:36 pm

GRinRI wrote:I think I saw that here too and I thought of it after my last post. I don't thing one web cam would do it though.


If I remember correctly, he had a pan-able, zoom-able camera that could be operated online. Maybe someone can point us to that thread??...It was pretty cool!
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