Cost of EFM compared to other boilers.

Cost of EFM compared to other boilers.

PostBy: beatle78 On: Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:17 am

Hi guys,

In all of my research it seems like the EFM boiler is noticeably more expensive than the other boiler manufacturer's out there. From another post it seems like a new EFM 520 is ~$12k.

AHS
AA
EFM
Keystoker
Harman

Is there a reason why it is more expensive? I have one theory, but I wanted to let the forum open up first.

I'm not trying to start a riot, I'm simply looking for some answers for my simple mind. :geek:

Thanks!
Jeremy
beatle78
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker KA-4

Re: Cost of EFM compared to other boilers.

PostBy: Richard S. On: Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:28 am

Well the Harman and the Keystokers do not have augers so you can knock them right off the list if more convenience is important.

The EFM's are ASME stamped. I know the Keystoker's are not and I don't know what the status of of the Harman's are. AHS offers a boiler with the ASME stamp but it's something like $2K more than one withput it and is right in line with the EFM if I'm not mistaken... the only difference being the stamp. Without the stamp it would be significantly cheaper but I'm pretty sure EFM does not offer any without it.

This stamp is required for commercial installations and there was some discussion during the summer where I beleive it was Mass that required it for home installations.
Richard S.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert VA1200
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/Anthracite

Re: Cost of EFM compared to other boilers.

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Tue Feb 17, 2009 10:16 am

All Axeman Andersons are H stamped also.
coaledsweat
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260M
Coal Size/Type: Pea

Re: Cost of EFM compared to other boilers.

PostBy: Freddy On: Tue Feb 17, 2009 11:15 am

Wow, that is a bunch o' money. How come I thought they were around 9 grand? I think the AA and AHS are around 7 grand now. I'll venture a guess that the EFM cost more because they weigh more. Steel ain't cheap!
Freddy
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 130 (pea)
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Reading piece o' junk in the barn (rice)
Coal Size/Type: Pea size, Superior, deep mined

Re: Cost of EFM compared to other boilers.

PostBy: stoker-man On: Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:15 pm

The 12K is someone's retail price. That's why it pays to shop around. In the FAQ for efm there are names of dealers who we sell through if you want to install yourself and can save you $$$
stoker-man
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: 1981 efm wcb-24 in use 365 days a year
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite/Chestnut
Other Heating: Hearthstone wood stove

Re: Cost of EFM compared to other boilers.

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:24 pm

Snap-On vs Matco or Mac... there was an ad campaign yrs ago

"Nothing beats quality like low prices"

and snap on countered with

"Quality is not expensive, its Priceless" !!

8-)
Poconoeagle
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Buckwalter & Co. , EFM520
Stove/Furnace Model: No. 28 Glenwood 1880, Alaska

Re: Cost of EFM compared to other boilers.

PostBy: coal berner On: Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:26 pm

Freddy wrote:Wow, that is a bunch o' money. How come I thought they were around 9 grand? I think the AA and AHS are around 7 grand now. I'll venture a guess that the EFM cost more because they weigh more. Steel ain't cheap!

Freedy you might want to look at the weight of all of these units EFM are not the heaviest .
EFM has more Cast & Machined Parts then the other's and they have a Full sealed base not a open base like AA AHS
EFM 520 New are about The same Price as a AA260 The AA130 are about 1K less
A good price for a new EFM DF-520 with out a Oil kit can be bought alot less then 12K It depends on what dealer you buy from .

EFM AP-350 weight Boiler 575lbs Base 135lbs stoker unit 214lbs Jackets 105lbs Toltal 1029lbs

EFM AP-520-1 Weight Boiler 750lbs Base 142lbs Stoker unit 214lbs Jackets 109lbs Toltal 1215lbs

EFM AP-700 Weight Boiler 1100lbs Base 226lbs Stoker unit 375lbs Jackets 132lbs Toltal 1833lbs

EFM AP-900 Weight Boiler 1465lbs Base 283lbs Stoker unit 395lbs Jackets 167lbs Toltal 2310lbs

EFM AP-1300 Weight Boiler 1850lbs Base 330lbs Stoker unit 400lbs Jackets 175lbs Toltal 2755lbs

Axeman Anderson 130 UnJacketed 930lbs
Jacketed 1000lbs

Axeman Aderson 260 UnJacketed 1410lbs
Jacketed 1530lbs

AHS S-130 Boiler Weight 400lbs
Assembled 875lbs

AHS S-260 Boiler Weight 680lbs
Assembled 1276lbs

AHS S-500 Boiler Weight 1250lbs Assembled 2200lbs

AHS S-1000 Boiler Weight 2500lbs Assembled 3800lbs

AHS S-1500 Boiler Weight 3500lbs Assembled 5000lbs
coal berner
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1986 Electric Furnace Man 520 DF
Stove/Furnace Make: Electric Furnace Man
Stove/Furnace Model: DF520

Re: Cost of EFM compared to other boilers.

PostBy: e.alleg On: Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:58 pm

I think EFM is a good value; you'll probably never need to buy another new one, and you'll probably go 15-20 years before it needs a new part. Your kids can sell it for $3000 when you are gone. Spend $10k on a car and see how long it lasts. There are guys that refurbish them too and sell them for less than half of new.
e.alleg
 
Stove/Furnace Make: EFM
Stove/Furnace Model: 520