Harman TLC 2000 Glass Door Cracked

Re: Harman TLC 2000 Glass Door Cracked

PostBy: JLF53 On: Sun Feb 22, 2009 3:10 pm

Gypsea1981 wrote:To JLF53:
I see here that you burned your fingers on a hot stove whilst performing repairs. Hint: Let it cool first.


If you read the quote properly, I would have had to let the fire go out to cool off the stove.

Now I would like to post the following since I am not in the process of running out the door, like I was on my last post.

Here is the factual list of issues with this stove:

1. It does not run for the time represented by the manufacturer, unless you burn it so low that it becomes a decorative stove rather than the heating source it is intended for. I am only trying to heat 1150 square feet at a temperature of 70. this cannot be accomplished at any less than 400-450. Presently I am running at 300-350 due to the glass and uncomfortable at 65 degrees.

2. Devil has had at least three issues, cracked glass, cracked firebrick from the propensity of the coal to wedge itself behind the firebrick and a bent bar. My last quote was being composed while I was on the way out the door. I meant to state that Devil's bent front bar probably coincided with the cracked glass.

3. My door handle broke after two weeks of burn time.

4. The firebrick is separating from the rear wall of the stove even though I am very careful to load only to the top (not on top) of the firebrick. thanks to Devil I was particularly careful about the firebrick, but am still encountering the same problem. I have a long fireplace poker that I use to clean off the top of the firebrick after each scoopful. In fact I am very careful about anything I own that is why I still a 1990 Mercury Grand Marquis in mint condition on the original engine, trans and power steering. I also own a 23 year old Maytag washer and an 18 year old Kitchenaid refrigerator. I have a successful track record of care and longevity with properly made high quality items. Thus I evaluate this Harman TLC 2000 on my experiance with other items. This Harman TLC 2000 reminds me of a GE stove that was repaired 7 times in two years for bad ignitors. The stove was a lemon and I am beginning to suspect that this Harman TLC 2000 is also.

5. The slide handle came apart at 6 weeks of burn time.

6. The pins on the glass door hinge work their way out and need constant attention if you use the glass door to load. Door came off in my hand one day. fortunately I Kevlar gloves to manage the fire.

7. The middle bar began bending at running temperature of 400-450, within specifications. I reported it to the dealer. Cast iron should not be bending at this temperature or this stove should not incorporate bars in front of a window as part of its design just so Harman can brag about the largest window in the industry.

8. The glass cracked for me and Devil. Devil has so little faith in the glass that he now has a spare and I suspect that he runs his stove at a low temperature of 300 due to the cracked glass.

9. The lip under the shaker mechanism needs to be cleaned, poor design.

10. There is another lip under the glass on the door which constantly gathers ash and will distribute it into your living quarters when you open the front glass door.

11. There is another lip under the bottom front iron bar that also collect ash and fines and pea size coal. This is impossible to clean unless you shut the stove down or remove the bar with a low fire and Kevlar gloves. It is possible that coal and ash build up could cause the glass to crack. However, when one seeks to determine the root cause of an incident, it is better directed at the manufacturer who possess national data rather than a dealer who might sell a handful of these models TLC 2000, if even more than one.

12. The blower holes did not line up with the holes on the stove. This is indicative of poor manufacturing. It took 2 hours to install. Please note that I am not a novice in mechanical repairs or home improvement. I have helped rebuild a 1957 Lincoln Premier engine. I can install and solder plumbing, install circuits in the breaker box and wire electric to the box and outlets . Thus having restored an 1870 Italianate historic house, a mere blower installation should not be more than a 10 minute job if the stove and blower were manufactured within specification. I finally got out a 3/8 carbide tipped drill, put on safety glasses and re-drilled the left screw hole on the blower so it would align with the stove screw hole. I finished installation within 5 minutes after this operation.

13. Max 12 hour burn times in really cold weather should be considered. If one has nothing better to do than service one of these hand fired stoves, then go for it. However, if one has a demanding job and a life, one might be better served to purchase a stoker or a furnace that adds to your present source of central heat. Personally, I am not interested in being a "coal slave!"

Honestly I could over look a few of these items, but the totality is just indicative of poor design and craftsmanship. The most troublesome is the glass. Even Devil does not trust his new glass. fortunately my husband and I were home when it occurred. I think it is a safety hazard and am negotiating with Harman on the matter.

I submit this commentary to others who may have encountered similar issues or to potential purchasers so that they may make an informed purchase decision. I would not buy this stove again. I would have liked to have an honest recounting of the facts previously stated prior to making my decison.

Finally, I will go directly to the manufacturer when I need satisfaction that goes beyond the dealer, because it the most prudent course of action if one really wants to fix a problem.. For instance, previously I succeeded in receiving satisfaction from Ford on a 1986 Taurus for a failed heater core, when it was a manufacturer defect. A poor design, flawed design or manufacturer defect are not the responsibility of a mere dealer. Satisfaction for problem for defects resolution resides plainly and clearly with the manufacturer.

Finally, the snide comments made by some members of this forum are base and unfounded and reflect poorly on those who need to focus on other things than their stove.

For those of you who somehow have their identities confused with their stove brand, perhaps you need to get a life. Once you have separated your identities from your stoves, you will see this is not personal
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Re: Harman TLC 2000 Glass Door Cracked

PostBy: JLF53 On: Sun Feb 22, 2009 3:11 pm

Gypsea1981 wrote:To JLF53:
I see here that you burned your fingers on a hot stove whilst performing repairs. Hint: Let it cool first.


Sarcasm is generally indicative of other issues. Perhaps you should not comment on things not fully understood. Otherwise you might get "burned!"
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Re: Harman TLC 2000 Glass Door Cracked

PostBy: JLF53 On: Sun Feb 22, 2009 3:30 pm

grizzly2 wrote:Now I see on page 2 Devil already had this quote covered. :oops:

Yes Devil, the psychiatrist is in. Consultations are 5 cents, same as Lucy (Peanuts). :roll:



Getting a little too personal here?
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Re: Harman TLC 2000 Glass Door Cracked

PostBy: JLF53 On: Sun Feb 22, 2009 3:31 pm

No comment
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Re: Harman TLC 2000 Glass Door Cracked

PostBy: Paisan On: Sun Feb 22, 2009 3:55 pm

JLF53 wrote:Finally, the snide comments made by some members of this forum are base and unfounded and reflect poorly on those who need to focus on other things than their stove.

For those of you who somehow have their identities confused with their stove brand, perhaps you need to get a life. Once you have separated your identities from your stoves, you will see this is not personal


Amen JLF53!!! Amen!!!! :punk:
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Re: Harman TLC 2000 Glass Door Cracked

PostBy: JLF53 On: Sun Feb 22, 2009 4:16 pm

Paisan wrote:
JLF53 wrote:Finally, the snide comments made by some members of this forum are base and unfounded and reflect poorly on those who need to focus on other things than their stove.

For those of you who somehow have their identities confused with their stove brand, perhaps you need to get a life. Once you have separated your identities from your stoves, you will see this is not personal


Amen JLF53!!! Amen!!!! :punk:


Thanks!!!!!!
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Re: Harman TLC 2000 Glass Door Cracked

PostBy: JLF53 On: Sun Feb 22, 2009 4:23 pm

CapeCoaler wrote:So one goes to Detroit when you have a problem with your car?
I believe the dealer can best handle most issues the best!
And this large publicly company you work for would be...


Actually one does go to Detroit when the problem or defect exceeds the capability of the dealer. I have successfully engaged Ford and received free replacement of a part beyond warranty.....that is what one does when one is right.
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Re: Harman TLC 2000 Glass Door Cracked

PostBy: Devil505 On: Sun Feb 22, 2009 5:34 pm

Good afternoon Jane. You presented a very concise accounting of the problems you have had with your TLC, many of which I've had as well. I think the difference is expectations. I consider all of the problems minor & attributable to what I consider normal wear & tare:



JLF53 wrote:
Gypsea1981 wrote:To JLF53:
I see here that you burned your fingers on a hot stove whilst performing repairs. Hint: Let it cool first.


If you read the quote properly, I would have had to let the fire go out to cool off the stove.

Now I would like to post the following since I am not in the process of running out the door, like I was on my last post.

Here is the factual list of issues with this stove:

1. It does not run for the time represented by the manufacturer, unless you burn it so low that it becomes a decorative stove rather than the heating source it is intended for. I am only trying to heat 1150 square feet at a temperature of 70. this cannot be accomplished at any less than 400-450. Presently I am running at 350 due to the glass and uncomfortable at 65 degrees.
I would simply point at there are way to many variables to be able to say what any appliance needs to run at in order to keep any particular house maintained at a comfortable temp. (tightness of house, insulation, etc)

2. Devil has had at least three issues, cracked glass, cracked firebrick from the propensity of the coal to wedge itself behind the firebrick and a bent bar. My last quote was being composed while I was on the way out the door. I meant to state the probably Devil's bent front bar probably coincided with the cracked glass.
I did have a cracked window, which I consider unwarrantable by the mfr & a miner bar bend which again...to me..is no big deal. (1 bent window bar in 4 years is pretty good I think & the bend was so slight that it was nowhere near the glass)
As far as coal wedging itself behind the single layer of firebrick the stove comes with, I recommend adding a 2nd layer of brick which fixes that problem, makes top loading easier & allows a deeper bed of coal for longer burns.


3. My door handle broke after two weeks of burn time.
Mine has been fine but my daughter's handle broke.

4. The firebrick is separating from the rear wall of the stove even though I am very careful to load only to the top (not on top) of the firebrick. thanks to Devil I was particularly careful about the firebrick, but am still encountering the same problem. I have a long fireplace poker that I use to clean off the top of the firebrick after each scoopful. In fact I am very careful about anything I own that is why I still a 1990 Mercury Grand Marquis in mint condition on the original engine, trans and power steering. I also own a 23 year old Maytag washer and an 18 year old Kitchenaid refrigerator. I have a successful track record of care and longevity with properly made high quality items. Thus I evaluate this Harman TLC 2000 on my experiance with other items. This Harman TLC 2000 reminds me of a GE stove that was repaired 7 times in two years for bad ignitors. The stove was a lemon and I am beginning to suspect that this Harman TLC 2000 is also.
Again, a 2nd layer of firebrick will solve that problem.

5. The slide handle came apart at 6 weeks of burn time.
Mine has been fine but I know my daughter's broke & was replaced by the dealer at no charge.


6. The pins on the glass door hinge work their way out and need constant attention if you use the glass door to load. Door came off in my hand one day. fortunately I Kevlar gloves to manage the fire.
Pins do work up but I just push them back down....Miner issue that I could easily fix with cotter pins.

7. The middle bar began bending at running temperature of 400-450, within specifications. I reported it to the dealer. Cast iron should not be bending at this temperature or this stove should not incorporate bars in front of a window as part of its design just so Harman can brag about the largest window in the industry.
I've had one bend slightly in 4 years

8. The glass cracked for me and Devil. Devil has so little faith in the glass that he now has a spare and I suspect that he runs his stove at a low temperature of 300 due to the cracked glass.
I had one crack but that's not why I keep my stove below 400*....380* is all I ever need to keep my house warm on the coldest days.

9. The lip under the shaker mechanism needs to be cleaned, poor design.
Agreed

10. There is another lip under the glass on the door which constantly gathers ash and will distribute it into your living quarters when you open the front glass door.
Not a problem for me.

11. There is another lip under the bottom front iron bar that also collect ash and fines and pea size coal. This is impossible to clean unless you shut the stove down or remove the bar with a low fire and Kevlar gloves. It is possible that coal and ash build up could cause the glass to crack. However, when one seeks to determine the root cause of an incident, it is better directed at the manufacturer who possess national data rather than a dealer who might sell a handful of these models TLC 2000, if even more than one.
Ash does accumulate there but I clean it out with a flat tool very easily.

12. The blower holes did not line up with the holes on the stove. This is indicative of poor manufacturing. It took 2 hours to install. Please note that I am not a novice in mechanical repairs or home improvement. I can install and solder plumbing and install circuits in the breaker box and wire electric to the box and outlets . thus having restores an 1870 Italianate historic house, a mere blower installation should not be more than a 10 minute job if the stove and blower were manufactured within specification. I finally got out a 3/8 carbide tipped drill, put on safety glasses and re-drilled the left screw hole on the blower so it would align with the stove screw hole. I finished installation within 5 minutes after this operation.
I use a different blower that is not attached to the stove with bolts.

13. Max 12 hour burn times in really cold weather should be considered. If one has nothing better to do than service one of these hand fired stoves, then go for it. However, if one has a demanding job and a life, one might be better served to purchase a stoker or a furnace that adds to your present source of central heat. Personally, I am not interested in being a "coal slave!"
Again, to many variables for burn times to be uniform.

I submit this commentary to others who may have encountered similar issues or to potential purchasers so that they may make an informed purchase decision. I would not buy this stove again. I would have liked to have an honest recounting of the facts previously stated prior to making my decison.

Finally, I will go directly to the manufacturer when I need satisfaction that goes beyond the dealer, because it the most prudent course of action if one really wants to fix a problem.. For instance, previously I succeeded in receiving satisfaction from Ford on a 1986 Taurus for a failed heater core, when it was a manufacturer defect. A poor design, flawed design or manufacturer defect are not the responsibility of a mere dealer. Satisfaction for problem for defects resolution resides plainly and clearly with the manufacturer.
Harman now has a factory telephone support # 800-664-3119

Finally, the snide comments made by some members of this forum are base and unfounded and reflect poorly on those who need to focus on other things than their stove.

For those of you who somehow have their identities confused with their stove brand, perhaps you need to get a life. Once you have separated your identities from your stoves, you will see this is not personal



I don't think a perfect stove exists &, after burning 3 coal stoves for 30 years, highly recommend the TLC2000.
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Re: Harman TLC 2000 Glass Door Cracked

PostBy: JLF53 On: Sun Feb 22, 2009 5:42 pm

Devil505 wrote:Good afternoon Jane. You presented a very concise accounting of the problems you have had with your TLC, many of which I' ve had as well. I think the difference is expectations. I consider all o the problems minor & attributable to what I consider normal wear & tare:



JLF53 wrote:
Gypsea1981 wrote:To JLF53:
I see here that you burned your fingers on a hot stove whilst performing repairs. Hint: Let it cool first.


If you read the quote properly, I would have had to let the fire go out to cool off the stove.

Now I would like to post the following since I am not in the process of running out the door, like I was on my last post.

Here is the factual list of issues with this stove:

1. It does not run for the time represented by the manufacturer, unless you burn it so low that it becomes a decorative stove rather than the heating source it is intended for. I am only trying to heat 1150 square feet at a temperature of 70. this cannot be accomplished at any less than 400-450. Presently I am running at 350 due to the glass and uncomfortable at 65 degrees.
I would simply point at there are way to many variables to be able to say what any appliance needs to run at in order to keep any particular house maintained at a comfortable temp. (tightness of house, insulation, etc)

2. Devil has had at least three issues, cracked glass, cracked firebrick from the propensity of the coal to wedge itself behind the firebrick and a bent bar. My last quote was being composed while I was on the way out the door. I meant to state the probably Devil's bent front bar probably coincided with the cracked glass.
I did have a cracked window, which I consider unwarrantable by the mfr & a miner bar bend which again...to me..is no big deal. (1 bent window bar in 4 years is pretty good I think & the bend was so slight that it was nowhere near the glass)
As far as coal wedging itself behind the single layer of firebrick the stove comes with, I recommend adding a 2nd layer of brick which fixes that problem, makes top loading easier & allows a deeper bed of coal for longer burns.


3. My door handle broke after two weeks of burn time.
Mine has been fine but my daughter's handle broke.

4. The firebrick is separating from the rear wall of the stove even though I am very careful to load only to the top (not on top) of the firebrick. thanks to Devil I was particularly careful about the firebrick, but am still encountering the same problem. I have a long fireplace poker that I use to clean off the top of the firebrick after each scoopful. In fact I am very careful about anything I own that is why I still a 1990 Mercury Grand Marquis in mint condition on the original engine, trans and power steering. I also own a 23 year old Maytag washer and an 18 year old Kitchenaid refrigerator. I have a successful track record of care and longevity with properly made high quality items. Thus I evaluate this Harman TLC 2000 on my experiance with other items. This Harman TLC 2000 reminds me of a GE stove that was repaired 7 times in two years for bad ignitors. The stove was a lemon and I am beginning to suspect that this Harman TLC 2000 is also.
Again, a 2nd layer of firebrick will solve that problem.

5. The slide handle came apart at 6 weeks of burn time.
Mine has been fine but I know my daughter's broke & was replaced by the dealer at no charge.


6. The pins on the glass door hinge work their way out and need constant attention if you use the glass door to load. Door came off in my hand one day. fortunately I Kevlar gloves to manage the fire.

7. The middle bar began bending at running temperature of 400-450, within specifications. I reported it to the dealer. Cast iron should not be bending at this temperature or this stove should not incorporate bars in front of a window as part of its design just so Harman can brag about the largest window in the industry.
I've had one bend slightly in 4 years

8. The glass cracked for me and Devil. Devil has so little faith in the glass that he now has a spare and I suspect that he runs his stove at a low temperature of 300 due to the cracked glass.
I had one crack but that's not why I keep my stove below 400*....380* is all I ever need to keep my house warm on the coldest days.

9. The lip under the shaker mechanism needs to be cleaned, poor design.
Agreed

10. There is another lip under the glass on the door which constantly gathers ash and will distribute it into your living quarters when you open the front glass door.
Not a problem for me.

11. There is another lip under the bottom front iron bar that also collect ash and fines and pea size coal. This is impossible to clean unless you shut the stove down or remove the bar with a low fire and Kevlar gloves. It is possible that coal and ash build up could cause the glass to crack. However, when one seeks to determine the root cause of an incident, it is better directed at the manufacturer who possess national data rather than a dealer who might sell a handful of these models TLC 2000, if even more than one.
Ash does accumulate there but I clean it out with a flat tool very easily.

12. The blower holes did not line up with the holes on the stove. This is indicative of poor manufacturing. It took 2 hours to install. Please note that I am not a novice in mechanical repairs or home improvement. I can install and solder plumbing and install circuits in the breaker box and wire electric to the box and outlets . thus having restores an 1870 Italianate historic house, a mere blower installation should not be more than a 10 minute job if the stove and blower were manufactured within specification. I finally got out a 3/8 carbide tipped drill, put on safety glasses and re-drilled the left screw hole on the blower so it would align with the stove screw hole. I finished installation within 5 minutes after this operation.
I use a different blower that is not attached to the stove with bolts.

13. Max 12 hour burn times in really cold weather should be considered. If one has nothing better to do than service one of these hand fired stoves, then go for it. However, if one has a demanding job and a life, one might be better served to purchase a stoker or a furnace that adds to your present source of central heat. Personally, I am not interested in being a "coal slave!"
Again, to many variables for burn times to be uniform.

I submit this commentary to others who may have encountered similar issues or to potential purchasers so that they may make an informed purchase decision. I would not buy this stove again. I would have liked to have an honest recounting of the facts previously stated prior to making my decison.

Finally, I will go directly to the manufacturer when I need satisfaction that goes beyond the dealer, because it the most prudent course of action if one really wants to fix a problem.. For instance, previously I succeeded in receiving satisfaction from Ford on a 1986 Taurus for a failed heater core, when it was a manufacturer defect. A poor design, flawed design or manufacturer defect are not the responsibility of a mere dealer. Satisfaction for problem for defects resolution resides plainly and clearly with the manufacturer.
Harman now has a factory telephone support # 800-664-3119

Finally, the snide comments made by some members of this forum are base and unfounded and reflect poorly on those who need to focus on other things than their stove.

For those of you who somehow have their identities confused with their stove brand, perhaps you need to get a life. Once you have separated your identities from your stoves, you will see this is not personal



I don't think a perfect stove exists &, after burning 3 coal stoves for 30 years, highly recommend the TLC2000.


I appreciate your point of view and I have certainly previously stated that you have helped me enormously!

However, these are not mere quirks or problems due to normal wear and tear. Normal wear and tear does not start to surface two weeks into use and go down hill from there at least with additional issues every two weeks or less. I think that your glass may have cracked due to the front bar bending. While you may be willing to overlook these issues, I not only have all of your issues at 9 weeks of burning, but I have additional issues.

This stove was a major investment. It cost us $2400 with all brass door trim and grills. blower, delivery and sales tax included. The warranty is an integral part of any major investment. I am not experiencing positive response from Harman. Previous experience with other companies similar to this has usually meant that they could care less about the customer. I come from GE with a customer centric mentality.

Thus, I will pursue this to satisfaction, which might mean getting a full refund.
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Re: Harman TLC 2000 Glass Door Cracked

PostBy: JLF53 On: Sun Feb 22, 2009 5:46 pm

"Again, a 2nd layer of firebrick will solve that problem."

I think a second layer of firebrick is imprudent since it changes the ratio of the fire box dimension thus affecting the heat distribution and other factors.

I think if you needed to respond to my opinion, point by point, you have your identy confused with that of your stove.
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Re: Harman TLC 2000 Glass Door Cracked

PostBy: Devil505 On: Sun Feb 22, 2009 5:49 pm

JLF53 wrote:Thus, I will pursue this to satisfaction, which might mean getting a full refund.


Everyone has to do what they feel is right. I've been more than satisfied, you are quite unhappy. Between our 2 reviews, I think any potential buyer has useful info to help make a wise decision for them. :cheers:
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Re: Harman TLC 2000 Glass Door Cracked

PostBy: JLF53 On: Sun Feb 22, 2009 5:59 pm

Devil505 wrote:
JLF53 wrote:Thus, I will pursue this to satisfaction, which might mean getting a full refund.


Everyone has to do what they feel is right. I've been more than satisfied, you are quite unhappy. Between our 2 reviews, I think any potential buyer has useful info to help make a wise decision for them. :cheers:


It is not about feelings, but factual disclosure. I do not have my identity confused with my stove, car or house. I have a life beyond mundane coal stoves.
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Re: Harman TLC 2000 Glass Door Cracked

PostBy: Devil505 On: Sun Feb 22, 2009 6:03 pm

JLF53 wrote:I have a life beyond mundane coal stoves.



Wait a minute!!...There is life beyond coal stoves?? (why wasn't I told about this!) :mad: :lol:
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Re: Harman TLC 2000 Glass Door Cracked

PostBy: JLF53 On: Sun Feb 22, 2009 6:42 pm

Devil505 wrote:
JLF53 wrote:I have a life beyond mundane coal stoves.



Wait a minute!!...There is life beyond coal stoves?? (why wasn't I told about this!) :mad: :lol:


Agreed! :D :)
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Re: Harman TLC 2000 Glass Door Cracked

PostBy: JLF53 On: Sun Feb 22, 2009 7:42 pm

no comment
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