President Obama's Speech-What did you think?

jpete wrote:I think it's a bit arrogant to acknowledge government is full of waste and graft but suggest your side is somehow different.

tvb wrote:I think, and those thoughts were reinforced last night for me, that President Obama is that game changer. It was refreshing to hear him outline what he hopes to accomplish and how he hopes to do it.

Poconoeagle wrote:"I'll go back to Alan Keyes. "How does a bankruot government bail out a bankrupt industry?" Do you really think you can spend your way out of debt? "

Boy I sure would like to see a simple verbaitim answer to these two simple questions, without any retoric. I cant imagine the simple answer answers would be anything but:

1. it can't
2. no

stockingfull wrote:

Poconoeagle wrote:"I'll go back to Alan Keyes. "How does a bankruot government bail out a bankrupt industry?" Do you really think you can spend your way out of debt? "

Boy I sure would like to see a simple verbaitim answer to these two simple questions, without any retoric. I cant imagine the simple answer answers would be anything but:

1. it can't
2. no

So, can we take it correctly that you guys have had an epiphany and now realize that "trickle-down," deficit Reaganomics are, as George the Elder observed in 1988, in fact "voodoo economics?"

Because the essence of both is a gamble that stoking the fire of the economy will, in the long run, generate more tax revenue and naturally bring the budget more into balance. But the reality is that, whether you increase spending or cut taxes, a deficit, gentlemen, is a goll-darn deficit.

tvb wrote:

Also, what happened to Obama NOT allowing any pork in this bill? He ran a campaign based on this and even proclaimed that he would use a line item veto to eliminate ANY pork.. well, now there are 9,000 ( yes 9,000 ) pork items in the bill ....

Examples?

jpete wrote:

Paulie wrote:In last nights address, the President made it clear that he was not a fan of more gov. or more gov. spending. The problems
that we face have been along time in forming, and needs to be addressed before more damage is done. So, lesser of two
evils is what I got out of the speech. Do nothing, and it gets worse for more years. Spend now, and get out of the hole
sooner.
I will give him credit for even listening to the Republicans and including them in the process to the extent they want to be.
Politically he does not need them. In light of the last 8-12 years of " F you and your mother" politics, really rather refreshing.
Like him or hate him, agree or disagree, he is taking the high road. Seems " gasp" Presidential. God Bless ALL of America

I'll go back to Alan Keyes. "How does a bankruot government bail out a bankrupt industry?" Do you really think you can spend your way out of debt? All our income tax barely covers the interest on our current debt. What will be the result of piling more on? It's a recipe for disaster.

Poconoeagle wrote:The photo captures a disturbing trend that is beginning to affect US wildlife.

Animals that were formerly self-sufficient are now showing signs of belonging to the Democrat Party... as they have apparently learned to just sit and wait for the government to step in and provide for their care and sustenance.

jpete wrote:

stockingfull wrote:

Poconoeagle wrote:"I'll go back to Alan Keyes. "How does a bankruot government bail out a bankrupt industry?" Do you really think you can spend your way out of debt? "

Boy I sure would like to see a simple verbaitim answer to these two simple questions, without any retoric. I cant imagine the simple answer answers would be anything but:

1. it can't
2. no

So, can we take it correctly that you guys have had an epiphany and now realize that "trickle-down," deficit Reaganomics are, as George the Elder observed in 1988, in fact "voodoo economics?"

Because the essence of both is a gamble that stoking the fire of the economy will, in the long run, generate more tax revenue and naturally bring the budget more into balance. But the reality is that, whether you increase spending or cut taxes, a deficit, gentlemen, is a goll-darn deficit.

Not if we do BOTH! THAT results in an improved economy. I'm sorry you can't accept that.

Check out the negative votes for the various pork projects in certain locales.

jpete wrote:Sometimes nothing is the right thing. When you're lost in the woods, sit down and don't do anything.