Obama's Stimulus for Biomass

Obama's Stimulus for Biomass

PostBy: Kenbod On: Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:01 am

The wood and pellet guys are advertising a component of the 2009 Stimulus Program. This program expands upon the Bush plan in that it allows a 30% (as opposed to $300) tax credit on the purchase of biomass heating units achieving efficiencies of at least 75%. It maxes out at $1500. That's real money. A $4500 wood or pellet boiler could now be more like $3000. Sure coal is still cheaper per BTU (by far), but sooner or later, we will be getting a "fossil fuel BTU tax" just like in Europe. It's just a matter of time.

I know that most of us are coal burners, but in my case it had more to do with overall economics, automation, and function. For those of us with family or friends considering a solid fuel choice, that cash could definitely tip the scales toward wood. If those incentives are out there, everybody should know about them.
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Re: Obama's Stimulus for Biomass

PostBy: tvb On: Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:21 am

Most of the tax credits for energy upgrades have been doubled under the new stimulus plan. Details here http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?c=p ... ax_credits
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Re: Obama's Stimulus for Biomass

PostBy: Paperboy On: Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:46 pm

As far as I'm concerned, coal is "the ultimate" biomass fuel. It's just not from the current model year :D !!
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Re: Obama's Stimulus for Biomass

PostBy: Scottscoaled On: Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:51 pm

So buy one that burns coal too. :) Scott
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Re: Obama's Stimulus for Biomass

PostBy: whistlenut On: Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:54 pm

Hey, there are NO bio-fuel boilers for 4500 greenbacks. Isn't happening this year or next, soooooooo
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Re: Obama's Stimulus for Biomass

PostBy: MountainPreacher On: Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:25 am

More Socialist crap. We, our children and grandchildren are being enslaved with a massive tax burden and opressive prices for basic human needs for something that is contrived and rooted in total fear, we must save the planet. How weak and pathetic we have become.
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Re: Obama's Stimulus for Biomass

PostBy: Ed.A On: Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:16 pm

Kenbod wrote: For those of us with family or friends considering a solid fuel choice, that cash could definitely tip the scales toward wood. If those incentives are out there, everybody should know about them.


Except it's a Panacea, the Sierra Club and other Enviro-terrorist organzations have close ties to EPA heads. They HATE Wood Burners. They will impose limits on when you can burn and when you can't.....already common place in California.

RESIST, it's our only chance.
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Re: Obama's Stimulus for Biomass

PostBy: MountainPreacher On: Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:20 pm

Resist indeed! Amazing, we are given "Incentives" to enslave our future - all based on the biggist hoax in history! :x
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Re: Obama's Stimulus for Biomass

PostBy: Ed.A On: Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:27 pm

MountainPreacher wrote:Resist indeed! Amazing, we are given "Incentives" to enslave our future - all based on the biggist hoax in history! :x



.....it's down right Orwellian.
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Re: Obama's Stimulus for Biomass

PostBy: MountainPreacher On: Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:39 pm

And unconstitutional, but who cares about that any more. :?: :?: :?:
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Re: Obama's Stimulus for Biomass

PostBy: danzig On: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:11 am

It is all about control and redistribution of wealth (yours, mine, and the rest of the country) . You are not allowed to be self serving and Independent anymore. Everything has an impact that is going to Jeopardize the world and the Environment. It is all a ploy to write bills and laws that will make the Government bigger and stronger. I would like to take an iron to Nancy and straighten out her wrinkels. She will never need another facelift.
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Re: Obama's Stimulus for Biomass

PostBy: MountainPreacher On: Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:33 pm

Yeah, and now Mr. "Know-It-All" is going back on TV tonight to rescue us from ourselves - again. I had my fill of him a year ago. He needs to sit down and shut up - he would surely appear, at least, to be much smarter than he is.
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Re: Obama's Stimulus for Biomass

PostBy: tvb On: Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:55 pm

Guys, this tax credit stimulus for biofuels was started by your hero, King George II. The Obama admin raised the $ levels some but at the end of the day, it was a Bushco program as part of the Econ Stabiliization program from last October. That was the one McCain did a grandstand move on to suspend his campaign to "fix the economy".
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Re: Obama's Stimulus for Biomass

PostBy: MountainPreacher On: Tue Mar 24, 2009 4:31 pm

No King of England is a hero here in these Colonies! Thank you. :mad:
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Re: Obama's Stimulus for Biomass

PostBy: Richard S. On: Tue Mar 24, 2009 5:23 pm

Even with a rebate a lot of people will not save money. Lowes has a 40 lb. bag of pellets listed at $6.49


http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=87059-303-P90003&lpage=none
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.


To keep it simple lets say $6 per 40 lb. bag of coal or $300 per ton BUT we need about 1.5 tons of pellets to equal 1 ton of coal. So we have about $450 compared to whatever you're paying for coal per ton... It's a significant difference. In my case about It would cost me $2000 more in heating season if I used pellets.
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