Shaking Down In Warm Weather

Re: Shaking Down In Warm Weather

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:50 pm

Wood'nCoal, are you running the Alaska too?


Yep, that's what heats the DHW.
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Re: Shaking Down In Warm Weather

PostBy: VigIIPeaBurner On: Sat Feb 28, 2009 2:03 am

Wood'nCoal wrote:
Wood'nCoal, are you running the Alaska too?


Yep, that's what heats the DHW.


Douh!
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Re: Shaking Down In Warm Weather

PostBy: oliver power On: Sat Feb 28, 2009 4:57 am

This kind of weather; I don't poke, and shake little. My stack temp is below 100*. House is comfortable.
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Re: Shaking Down In Warm Weather

PostBy: JB Sparks On: Sat Feb 28, 2009 5:19 am

The only change made is to close the idle port down a little more, boiler has been idling probably all nite. 45* outside right now.
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Re: Shaking Down In Warm Weather

PostBy: photoboy On: Sat Feb 28, 2009 5:48 am

still pretty new to coal burning so please forgive any ignorance. what is stack temperature, how does one measure it, and what is it's significance?
last night my upstairs stove didn't bank, and the coals were out this morning. even though it's only 45 out, the upstairs was still comfortable in the (late) morning - shorts and t-shirt. i just opened a few doors downstairs and warm air is working its way up to keep it warm. our house is brick, insulated and draft-proofed on the outside, and has incredible thermal mass properties. but when it is warmer outside, i burn less coal at a time and let it burn down almost completely (not traditional coal, but crushed, pressed lignite briquettes). when it comes time to reload coal, i get a small wood fire going again with the coal embers, and than pile some briquettes on until they catch, and throttle down when the wood is almost completely burned through. still, it is too warm upstairs and we have to "cool" by opening doors to rooms we aren't currently using. hate the idea of opening windows now that i'm intimately involved with heating (sawing, hacking wood, lighting fires, schlepping coal from outside shed cellar indoors). will try keeping the downstairs fired up, and seeing if i can't keep upstairs warm like i stated earlier.
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Re: Shaking Down In Warm Weather

PostBy: Devil505 On: Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:11 am

oliver power wrote:This kind of weather; I don't poke, and shake little. My stack temp is below 100*. House is comfortable.


I still poke a little, but find the ash finer & easier to shake down. Go through about 1/2 the coal I burned daily in January & longer times between reloads. (use about 20lbs-30lbs daily in fall & spring) Still shake down once a day.
I guess the main difference is just much longer waits with ash door open for fire to brighten up.
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Re: Shaking Down In Warm Weather

PostBy: dutch On: Sat Feb 28, 2009 9:57 am

Devil505 wrote:
lowfog01 wrote:I'm afraid to try if I'm not going to be home most of the day (like today) to watch the stove.


Another toy I recommend is this http://www.smarthome.com/3219/Redi-Chek ... ter/p.aspx
which will remotely alarm if your fire gets to hot or to cold, for when you are home.



What is the temp range of that smoker thermometer? Is it good up to 400-500 degrees
in the stove pipe?
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Re: Shaking Down In Warm Weather

PostBy: Devil505 On: Sat Feb 28, 2009 10:08 am

dutch wrote:What is the temp range of that smoker thermometer? Is it good up to 400-500 degrees
in the stove pipe?


I think it's good up to 450* but I don't put the probe directly into the pipe.( I hook it to the sheet metal shield that comes attached to the TLC as a heat shield) You don't need exact temps, just temps to let you know if the stove is overheating or cooling down too much. (I have my alarms set at 125* for low & 400* for Hi) I have the probe placed so it reads similar temps to what my magnetic stick-on pipe thermo reads, about 14" above the stove on the vent pipe.
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Re: Shaking Down In Warm Weather

PostBy: dutch On: Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:35 pm

i guess if it was reading too hot i could always move it up on to the pipe to
mirror the magnetic thermometer. Maybe I could do a similar setup,
mount it against the stove pipe, not into the pipe where the smoke is.

i do have my magnetic occasionally read up to 500 when i open up the stove before
i shake and load,that really helps things get going after a load gets added.

but,
i did have a little mental lapse last weekend and forgot about it, and overfired
the stove for an hour or so. i wasn't happy about that, and will be getting a remote
thermo to help me keep an eye on the stove from upstairs. (stove is in basement)

thanks
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Re: Shaking Down In Warm Weather

PostBy: rockwood On: Sat Feb 28, 2009 3:15 pm

photoboy wrote:still pretty new to coal burning so please forgive any ignorance. what is stack temperature, how does one measure it, and what is it's significance?

Stack temperature is the temperature of the flue (chimney pipe) measured with either a stove pipe thermometer which has a magnet to hold it to the chimney pipe or a probe sensor that can be inserted into the flue measuring the actual temperature of flue gases. Local hardware stores often carry the magnetic ones or you can just google stove pipe thermometer and order one online. Stove pipe temperatures are usually measured about 1 to 2 feet up the stove pipe from the stove. These thermometers can help run a stove at more consistent temperatures resulting in better heating efficiency. Thermometers can be used to monitor the stove body temperature as well but I prefer to monitor the stove pipe with my particular installation.
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Re: Shaking Down In Warm Weather

PostBy: wallyatrmc On: Wed Mar 04, 2009 1:46 am

yea in warm weather i only shake my stove in the evening in the morning i just add coal and close the primary air so that its only open 1/2 turn.it just sorta lays there around 200* all day yhen in the eve i open the ash door for awhile to get it going this is on a harman sf-150 dual fuel app 24 years old
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