DEA to halt medical marijuana raids

DEA to halt medical marijuana raids

PostBy: Devil505 On: Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:24 am

Holder confirms states to have final say on use of drug for pain control
By Alex Johnson
Reporter
msnbc.com
updated 5:42 p.m. ET, Fri., Feb. 27, 2009

Supporters of programs to provide legal marijuana to patients with painful medical conditions are celebrating Attorney General Eric Holder’s statement this week that the Drug Enforcement Administration would end its raids on state-approved marijuana dispensaries.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/29433708/

Tell me things aren't drastically improving under Obama! :up:
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Re: DEA to halt medical marijuana raids

PostBy: whistlenut On: Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:32 am

Are you currently 'easing the pain'?
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Re: DEA to halt medical marijuana raids

PostBy: Devil505 On: Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:36 am

Not me any more. (& never did when I was in DEA)

(But I used to work with a guy in the IRS who would keep a bong in his government car & always ask me if I wanted to make field calls with him! :lol: ...I never did.....The LAST thing I would have wanted to do stoned was collect taxes!!) :eek2:
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Re: DEA to halt medical marijuana raids

PostBy: whistlenut On: Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:43 am

The way things are going, you'd have to be stoned if you think we can pay much more! :lol: :shock: :roll:

Will a bong be part of the 'field' equipment for new hires....and old timers?
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Re: DEA to halt medical marijuana raids

PostBy: Devil505 On: Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:48 am

whistlenut wrote:Will a bong be part of the 'field' equipment for new hires....and old timers?


Drugs of Choice


IRS..Weed

DEA...Booze
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Re: DEA to halt medical marijuana raids

PostBy: gaw On: Sat Feb 28, 2009 9:00 am

America is dying but it laughs, as was once said of the Roman Empire. GEORGE NEUMAYR


Keep me posted when Lysergic acid diethylamide becomes decriminalized. I like to use it as an antidote to reality.
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Re: DEA to halt medical marijuana raids

PostBy: jpete On: Sat Feb 28, 2009 9:06 am

More bread and circus for the flock. The Feds are losing control of it anyway. CA made medical pot legal and MA just decriminalized less than an ounce to the same standing as a parking ticket. Criminalization was doing more harm than good and enforcement was getting too expensive. Considering BHO's past drug use, this is the only thing I can agree with him on so far. Never used it and never wanted to but picking a plant that grows naturally always seemed strange to me. Why not make poison ivy illegal? I suffered more from that than I ever did from pot. It nearly killed my father. He swells up like the blueberry girl i Willie Wonka if he gets near it. Pot never did that. :)
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Re: DEA to halt medical marijuana raids

PostBy: Devil505 On: Sat Feb 28, 2009 9:06 am

gaw wrote:
America is dying but it laughs, as was once said of the Roman Empire. GEORGE NEUMAYR


Keep me posted when Lysergic acid diethylamide becomes decriminalized. I like to use it as an antidote to reality.


Reality is highly overrated! :devil:
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Re: DEA to halt medical marijuana raids

PostBy: whistlenut On: Sat Feb 28, 2009 9:10 am

Isn't DEA 'Drug Enforcement Agency' :doh: :drool: :fear: :annoyed: :lol: toothy

I'm beginning to put together 'your profile' now.
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Re: DEA to halt medical marijuana raids

PostBy: Devil505 On: Sat Feb 28, 2009 9:13 am

whistlenut wrote:Isn't DEA 'Drug Enforcement Agency' :doh: :drool: :fear: :annoyed: :lol: toothy


'Drug Enforcement Administration (newsmen rarely get it right)
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Re: DEA to halt medical marijuana raids

PostBy: jpete On: Sat Feb 28, 2009 9:15 am

Anyone else find it ironic that Marilyn Manson's "The Dope Show" came on my .mp3 player while I was reading this thread? I think I also have "I Don't Like the Drugs(But the Drugs Like Me)" on here. :D
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Re: DEA to halt medical marijuana raids

PostBy: pvolcko On: Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:22 am

Okay, put aside your stance on state law vs federal law on this matter, also your personal preferences with regard to decriminalizing pot or other drugs, arguments as to whether the feds can constitutionally regulate drug sales/use within a state at all, and issues of enforcement priorities.

Isn't this a bad precedent? There are federal drug laws on the books. Obama is the chief executive and Holder is the point man on federal law enforcement. Shouldn't they be enforcing the federal laws as written and intended? I realize that there are priorities that have to be set and all that, but lets apply this "we aren't going to enforce this law" stance to some other things.

How about border illegal immigration enforcement? Interior illegal immigration enforcement? Isn't this of the same general class of so-called "victimless" crimes where some city and state laws and enforcement policies are in direct contravention of federal laws and policies?

What if a state, say New York, decides to impose tariffs on all international imported goods. This would potentially be welcomed by a large number of union workers, various employment activist groups, and some domestic manufacturers. Yet it would be a direct contravention of federal treaties and law and ultimately the constitution. If Holder and the Commerce secretary decided to let it go, how would that be okay?

If we want to decriminalize pot at a federal level, either across the board or only for state medical marijuana programs, isn't it only right to do this through legislative action (or for a law suit to be brought and to find the federal law illegal)? What right under the constitution does Obama and/or Holder have to give an official pass to medical marijuana distributors?
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Re: DEA to halt medical marijuana raids

PostBy: Paulie On: Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:10 am

It is a really bad deal. Either it is legal or it is not. " Sorta legal" is not a term studied in law school. Having said that
" Smoke'm if you got'em" :smoke:
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Re: DEA to halt medical marijuana raids

PostBy: Devil505 On: Mon Mar 02, 2009 5:44 am

pvolcko wrote:What right under the constitution does Obama and/or Holder have to give an official pass to medical marijuana distributors?


What wording in the Constitution takes away the Executive's right/duty to set law enforcement priorities based on degree of public danger presented by different types of crime? Show me the Constitutional wording that says the FBI must enforce the "Migratory Bird Act" with the same priority as it does violations of Terrorism, Bank Robbery or Kidnapping laws? They are ALL federal laws on the books requiring federal law enforcement.
Nothing in our Constitution prohibits the President or his employees from using common sense. ;)

(additionally, look into GW Bush's use of "Signing Statements" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signing_statement_(United_States) in which Bush would virtually thumb his nose at Congress & outrigbht refuse to enforce laws they had passed)
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Re: DEA to halt medical marijuana raids

PostBy: jpete On: Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:26 am

Devil, even though I agree with you, you should probably change "Bush" to "the president". All of them use signing statements and executive orders to do an end run around the Constitution and write their own laws.GWB just turned it into an art form. Clinton did it and rest assured, you boy will do it too. And then what will you say?
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