Alternatives for Lighting Coal

Alternatives for Lighting Coal

PostBy: traderfjp On: Tue Oct 24, 2006 11:42 pm

Match Light is very hard to find this time of year. I was wondering if Duraflame firestarters could be used or would the wax clog the grates. Is it a bad idea to use these. How does Matchlight work for starting coal fires in a stoker.
traderfjp
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Alaska
Stove/Furnace Model: Channing 3

PostBy: stokerstove On: Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:41 am

I tried a few things but nothing worked as well as the "mouse" lighters. I can't get the "mouse" ones anymore but Alaska has some that work just as well, just pile some coal around it and light the fuse. I usually only light the stove once a year so I can afford them at a buck-a -piece.
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska Kodiak Stokerstove 1

PostBy: coalkirk On: Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:52 am

I've found that lump type charcoal, not briquets, works really well. You generally have to buy it in larger bags but it will last forever if you keep it dry. A few very small pieces of dry oak with a few pieces of lump charcoal and hit it with the propane torch for about 20 seconds. Do this with the combustion blower off. then once it's lit, close the door, turn on the blower and in a few minutes, you've got some nice glowing coals. Then sprinkle some rice coal on top, wait another couple of minutes and turn on the feeder. This works very well and yoou don't have the stink of the match light fuel.
coalkirk
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Harman VF3000
Coal Size/Type: antrhcite/rice coal


PostBy: AL-53 On: Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:11 pm

coalkirk wrote:I've found that lump type charcoal, not briquets, works really well. You generally have to buy it in larger bags but it will last forever if you keep it dry. A few very small pieces of dry oak with a few pieces of lump charcoal and hit it with the propane torch for about 20 seconds. Do this with the combustion blower off. then once it's lit, close the door, turn on the blower and in a few minutes, you've got some nice glowing coals. Then sprinkle some rice coal on top, wait another couple of minutes and turn on the feeder. This works very well and yoou don't have the stink of the match light fuel.


yes..the lump charcoal..I call it cowboy charcoal..is a natural charcoal...made in beehive kilns....looks like chunks of wood.....we have a place near me that makes it..I go get all the small stuff....it lights fast and is hot...I put it on a bed of wood pellets...little lighter fluid..and lite ..starts coal very nice.....I have use stove mice also and it works fast....

AL
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PostBy: rschoensta On: Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:00 pm

I just lit my stove for the first time.
I bought a Leisure Line and the dealer had these small starter bags.
(.85 per bag) I believe supplied by the company although not sure.

This started the coal burning no problem.
This is the first time I've ever started a coal fire.

You put the bag on the grate and surround it and cover it with coal.
(This is a rice coal stove.)
Light it, close the door, turn the blower on and after 3 or 4 minutes put some more coal on top.

This may be the coal mouse that others have mentioned.
rschoensta
 

PostBy: traderfjp On: Thu Oct 26, 2006 1:24 am

The mice work the best. I lit my stove with Match lite charcoal but it took a much longer time to get it going.
traderfjp
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Alaska
Stove/Furnace Model: Channing 3

PostBy: Wicho On: Thu Oct 26, 2006 9:15 pm

I just bought my stove this year and was given several of the mice by my dealer. He told me that inside the mice is the same material as in a road flare. Since we sell road flares at work I bought one- cut it into 4" lengths and lit the end- (with gloves on of course). It takes a few seconds to light but once it gets going just stick it in a small pile of coal.. works perfect!
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Propane torch

PostBy: rschoensta On: Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:12 am

The other night my stove went out and I didn't want to use up my remaining starter bag so I just grabbed a propane torch.

That worked fine.

I use rice coal.

I would think that's easier to start then the larger grades.
rschoensta
 

Coal mouse pictures.

PostBy: Philippe23 On: Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:37 am

I figured I'd post a picture or two of a coal mouse, since they seem to be available here and there. (Alaska Stove Dealers seem to have them; that's where I got mine.)
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska Channing III
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Stove/Furnace Make: Alaska
Stove/Furnace Model: Channing III

PostBy: traderfjp On: Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:08 pm

I think I have lighting the stove down pat. I still use Match light charcoal but now I take the 4-5 pieces and breask them with a hammer. This makes for fast lighting.
traderfjp
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Alaska
Stove/Furnace Model: Channing 3

PostBy: traderfjp On: Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:58 pm

rschoensta:

How do you like the Coal-trol thermostat that comes with your stove. Does it do a good job of regulating temps?
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Stove/Furnace Make: Alaska
Stove/Furnace Model: Channing 3

PostBy: Matthaus On: Fri Nov 03, 2006 1:48 am

traderfjp,

I have a Coal-trol on my Alaska Kast II (5K - 75K btu). It works awesome, would highly recommend to anyone especially for a Tri-burner type stove (the combustion fan and stoker are driven by the same motor). The room where my T-stat is located stays within 1 degree of the set point, also during the recent 55 degree days it never went out (although it did go over the set point by 3 degrees, but that would be expected).

It takes about 20 minutes to install and then another couple hours to set the high and low firesettings, after that it is set and forget. I especially like that for when I go out of town, my wife can change the settings easily and all she has to do is empty the ashes and fill the hopper. :thumbleft:
Matthaus
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Leisure Line WL110 Dual Fuel, natural gas
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Leisure Line Lil' Heater (rental house)
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Buckwheat Anthracite

PostBy: rschoensta On: Sat Nov 04, 2006 10:49 am

Hi.
Yes I have the same experience.
I have a leisure line pocono.

And yes the coal trol keeps temps within +/- 1 degree.

after a few start up glitches I haven't had to do anyting with the stove aside from put coal in and empty the ashes out.
rschoensta
 

PostBy: crmoores On: Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:20 pm

Had some of those soft "bricks" that someone gave us to help start wood fires, crumbled these up, put a little coal on top, worked great, takes about 10 min to get the coal burning well.
Propane torch (hotter gas better) also works with some patience).

Using buckwheat.
crmoores
 

PostBy: trb157 On: Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:11 pm

Anybody ever tired Trioxane bars? Military surplus stores have these by the truckload and they burn hot and long sort of like a sterno can, very cheap. Are they dangerous to try in a coal stoker stove? I always wondered.
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