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Post by coaledsweat » Sun. Mar. 08, 2009 10:59 pm

It is an engineering exercise, he said in the video that they have no plans to manufacture it.


 
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Post by gambler » Sun. Mar. 08, 2009 11:42 pm

Probably does not even function. Just a concept.

 
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Post by Devil505 » Mon. Mar. 09, 2009 6:07 am

gambler wrote:Probably does not even function. Just a concept.
Still...It looks to be just a Glock automatic that they made fully automatic & added a little stamped metal too. Can't think of why it would be unworkable?
(maybe unmarketable outside of James Bond movies...but workable nonetheless)

 
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Post by Complete Heat » Mon. Mar. 09, 2009 9:09 am

I got to fire a Glock 19?, a fully automatic glock 17. Fun to shoot, but useless for real applications.

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Post by Black_And_Blue » Mon. Mar. 09, 2009 9:33 am

What you really need is a Glock 7.

Made in Germany, this firearm is constructed entirely of porcelain, is capable of passing through airport metal detectors completely unnoticed. The only downside to this amazing weapon is the price, which is quite expensive. The real MSRP is unknown, but experts say that they cost more than the Dulles International Airport Police Chief makes in a month.

 
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Post by Devil505 » Mon. Mar. 09, 2009 9:47 am

This topic seems to be morphing into a home defense topic, so, I will just make one more point in that regard.
In a normal home, there is one "Choke Point" that we LEO's are in the most danger in clearing & is the best place to set up a home defense from:...Stairways.
A stairway is almost impossible to safely assault for for a LEO serving a search/arrest warrant or a home invader & is the easiest point to successfully defend if you are the occupant. With virtually any firearm, the defender at the top of the stairs has a commanding field of fire at the heads/torsos of any attackers trying to climb the stairs. Practice positioning yourself (with your firearm,of course )behind whatever cover you can find/create at the top of the stairs while your wife grabs your kids & calls 911. Under most circumstances, you are in an almost impregnable position to defend yourself & family. (if you are really paranoid :lol: ....You should have a cell phone available to call 911 from. Just make sure you give the address clearly as cells in some areas still cannot be traced to address)
If you have no stairway, any choke point (a narrow hall leading to your bedrooms, etc) is your next best position.

Edit: I personally have seen make-shift heavy barricades hinged to the walls that can be quickly closed to block-off hallways with firing slits cut into them for defensive firing station behind them. (typically used as a very cheap but effective way for drug dealers to fortify their apartment against rival drug gang attacks) If you are REAL paranoid :lol: :lol: ....for less than $50.00 in materials (& 1/ hour work) you too could make one of these things! :rambo2:

(if you wanted to spend a bit more $$$, buy a proper sized pre-hung door, bolt a 1/4" sheet of steel/iron to the back &....VOILA!!....For a homeowner (with a "decor concerned" wife...Build a fortified Pocket Door that will just disappear when not in use!! ;) )

 
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Post by rrob311 » Mon. Mar. 09, 2009 12:00 pm

coaledsweat I have had a gun pulled on me at 5-10 feet away, luckily it was only a .25 and the guy was drugged out of his mind. I think if I ran away and zig-zagged I may have been okay if he tried to shoot and the the actually didn't jam. hahahahahahahah but the point is that .25 caliber sat night specials are not good for a Pistol of Choice. Which can be unreliable, inaccurate, and expensive to shoot with minimal ballistic power.
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Post by SuperBeetle » Mon. Mar. 09, 2009 12:08 pm

Devil505 wrote:This topic seems to be morphing into a home defense topic, so, I will just make one more point in that regard.
In a normal home, there is one "Choke Point" that we LEO's are in the most danger in clearing & is the best place to set up a home defense from:...Stairways.
A stairway is almost impossible to safely assault for for a LEO serving a search/arrest warrant & is the easiest point to successfully defend if you are the occupant.
I'll keep that in mind ;)

 
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Post by stovepipemike » Tue. Mar. 10, 2009 8:54 am

When the situation is extreme,it has always been my thinking that it is important to remove as many variables as possible.That is why my answer to this pistol selection question would be a .38 caliber M&P Smith and Wesson.I believe the Military & Police later became the Model 10. They were for many years the item of choice by M&P for good reason.My belief is that they are a double action,extremely accurate,economical to purchase used,very plentiful since most police departments have gone to the semi auto's,do not cause distraction due to heavy recoil, and one of the most reliable things I can think of, ranking right up there with a coal fire that has lots of draft. Be Sure- Be safe Mike

 
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Post by Poconoeagle » Tue. Mar. 10, 2009 9:14 am

out of this mornings news... "The .45-caliber Glock jammed after four shots were fired "
unusual and prob caused by weak ammo or something but I agree with you Mike. safe is what this is about.

 
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Post by KLook » Tue. Mar. 10, 2009 6:15 pm

I'll stick with my .45 Springfield XD and a shotgun. I have a Ruger Single Six in 9mm/.357 but the .45 is easier to handle and does not recoil like the .357. My wife could shoot the .45 but not the Ruger. I would not like to be on the receiving end of any of them. :shock:

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Post by e.alleg » Tue. Mar. 10, 2009 11:32 pm

Poconoeagle wrote:out of this mornings news... "The .45-caliber Glock jammed after four shots were fired "
unusual and prob caused by weak ammo or something but I agree with you Mike. safe is what this is about.
I have never heard of a Glock being anything other than reliable, check the Utube torture test vids - they are solid. My guess is the news is full of crap or the guy put it together with redneck engineering to replace some lost parts.

 
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Post by Poconoeagle » Tue. Mar. 10, 2009 11:40 pm

e.alleg wrote:
Poconoeagle wrote:out of this mornings news... "The .45-caliber Glock jammed after four shots were fired "
unusual and prob caused by weak ammo or something but I agree with you Mike. safe is what this is about.
I have never heard of a Glock being anything other than reliable, check the Utube torture test vids - they are solid. My guess is the news is full of crap or the guy put it together with redneck engineering to replace some lost parts.
I wonder also but that is what it said. I have put extreme lead thru them also. they are reliable as hell, lesson here is
good ammo and practice with the intended ammo to be used....Often :)

 
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Post by Black_And_Blue » Wed. Mar. 11, 2009 4:18 pm

This thread is lacking pictures.

Here's a good paper puncher :

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For wheel gun aficionados you can't go wrong with a .357 :

Both are within the price range you outlined. The advantage of wheel guns in particular calibers is the ability to shoot shorter less powerful cartridges for target practice while still maintaining the self defense priority.

Semi autos can be converted to shoot .22lr with additional expense, Ciener is one source : http://www.22lrconversions.com/
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Post by Poconoeagle » Wed. Mar. 11, 2009 4:25 pm

or one could just hire some one to protect them and do the odd-job???

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