Pistol of Choice

Re: Pistol of Choice

PostBy: PC 12-47E On: Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:15 pm

Taurus Tracker .45 Colt :D

Remington 870 12ga :o

Ruger MK III with Laser Grips ;)

Rock River M4 LaserMax, Streamlight M3X
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Re: Pistol of Choice

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:22 pm

Poconoeagle wrote:or one could just hire some one to protect them and do the odd-job???


Are you standing in for Wood'nCoal when he is offline?
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Re: Pistol of Choice

PostBy: Devil505 On: Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:23 pm

Poconoeagle wrote:or one could just hire some one to protect them and do the odd-job???



Wait a minute!!...Didn't President Obama personally confiscate that hat??? :lol:
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Re: Pistol of Choice

PostBy: topper On: Thu Mar 12, 2009 5:47 pm

Ruger .357 Blackhawk - nuff said...
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Re: Pistol of Choice

PostBy: Cap On: Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:45 am

OK, If I wanted to purchase a revolver similar to the one in PK's image above, where would I go?

I visited some local dealers in my area. All of the hand guns are 2nd hand or older. And most are pistols. And what revolvers they had were not the size and caliper I have in mind.
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Re: Pistol of Choice

PostBy: Ashcat On: Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:50 pm

I recently read a real-world account that changed my mind on the idea of semi-auto vs revolver. Previously, since I've only ever fired, through various handguns and long guns, a total of about 500 rounds in my life, I figured the simpler the better when it came to handguns (already have 12 ga Franchi semi-auto and 20 ga Remington pump), so go with a revolver. While the relative mechanical simplicity of a revolver might be good, the account I read made an important point about having to reload after 6 (or 7) shots with a revolver, whereas a high capactiy magazine and the ability to reload it quickly may be a crucial issue in a real fight. I think this is even more important with someone, like me, who isn't exactly a marksman. For a marksman, 6 or 7 shots may be all that's needed to deal with, say, two intruders. But given my accuracy, I sure would like to not be out after 6 shots, having to then take 15 seconds (more like 45 when the adrenaline and fear are running high) to reload another 6. Like Klook, I'm partial to the Springfield .45 ACP XD--with 2 high capacity magazines, that's 26 rounds of stopping power, with a reload time, to just change the magazine, of about 2 seconds. I think the .45 has stopping power without the sense of an explosion going off in your hand (and eyes) that the .357 S&W I fired gives.

The account I read is by an Argentinian in a true SHTF scenario in a developed country, when their currency collapsed with hyperinflation in 2001. I have no recollection of how I came across this--for all I know, it may have been linked by someone here--but whoever it was, THANK YOU. I think it is, while long, a must read. He has alot to say about guns but, maybe more importantly, many other issues as well (like food, barter/trade, urban vs rural, health, etc) in such a scenario. Here it is:
http://www.frugalsquirrels.com/cgi-bin/ ... 044387;p=1
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Re: Pistol of Choice

PostBy: Devil505 On: Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:21 pm

Ashcat wrote:While the relative mechanical simplicity of a revolver might be good, the account I read made an important point about having to reload after 6 (or 7) shots with a revolver, whereas a high capactiy magazine and the ability to reload it quickly may be a crucial issue in a real fight.


Revolver vs semi-auto is an old debate & has no definitive answer beyond.... buy & carry what you prefer. All modern firearms (from reputable manufacturers) are well made with a very low likelihood of misfiring... with decent ammunition & if kept reasonably clean. When I first started with DEA (1975) we were issued S&W 38cal revolvers with short (2.5") barrels. As soon as I got to work in the real world, I bought a 9mm automatic because I liked having a longer barrel (for better accuracy) & more rounds in the magazine. I would say most agents kept their issued revolvers in their desk & opted for their own, private automatic for reasons similar to mine. There were a few who stuck with their issued "38's", but they were rare. (Justice Dept rules were you could carry anything you wanted (38Cal+) but you had to qualify with it every month)
If you are going to carry concealed, the trade-off is always concealability vs stopping power & I believe new agents are issued 40Cal Glocks as a goods trade off.
If you are not trying to conceal a handgun, I would probably pick a 45Cal for it's stopping power.
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Re: Pistol of Choice

PostBy: PC 12-47E On: Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:40 pm

Ashcat wrote:I recently read a real-world account that changed my mind on the idea of semi-auto vs revolver. Previously, since I've only ever fired, through various handguns and long guns, a total of about 500 rounds in my life, I figured the simpler the better when it came to handguns (already have 12 ga Franchi semi-auto and 20 ga Remington pump), so go with a revolver. While the relative mechanical simplicity of a revolver might be good, the account I read made an important point about having to reload after 6 (or 7) shots with a revolver, whereas a high capactiy magazine and the ability to reload it quickly may be a crucial issue in a real fight. I think this is even more important with someone, like me, who isn't exactly a marksman. For a marksman, 6 or 7 shots may be all that's needed to deal with, say, two intruders. But given my accuracy, I sure would like to not be out after 6 shots, having to then take 15 seconds (more like 45 when the adrenaline and fear are running high) to reload another 6. Like Klook, I'm partial to the Springfield .45 ACP XD--with 2 high capacity magazines, that's 26 rounds of stopping power, with a reload time, to just change the magazine, of about 2 seconds. I think the .45 has stopping power without the sense of an explosion going off in your hand (and eyes) that the .357 S&W I fired gives.

The account I read is by an Argentinian in a true SHTF scenario in a developed country, when their currency collapsed with hyperinflation in 2001. I have no recollection of how I came across this--for all I know, it may have been linked by someone here--but whoever it was, THANK YOU. I think it is, while long, a must read. He has alot to say about guns but, maybe more importantly, many other issues as well (like food, barter/trade, urban vs rural, health, etc) in such a scenario. Here it is:
http://www.frugalsquirrels.com/cgi-bin/ ... 044387;p=1


The Springfield XD in .45 ACP is very good for home defense. I just checked the wholesale price for the XD. $436.50 for the least expensive XD .45 ACP. After shipping to a dealer add another $20. So the real world price is in the $500. range. This is a good price.

For reloading a revolver fast get a few HKS speedloaders.
http://www.pistoleer.com/hks/revolver/

If a revolver or auto pistol is not an option, The M1 Carbine is a very good with soft point ammo. Stay away from full metal jacket!!!! The FMJ ammo will go through lots of walls.

RS
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Re: Pistol of Choice

PostBy: Ashcat On: Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:59 pm

Devil, thanks for the reply. No reason for me to carry--at least not yet. Sounds like more of you pros seem to opt for auto pistols over revolvers, and maybe that is a telling statistic.

PC 12-47E-- Mine was $529--got it yesterday. Came with 2 high cap magazines.
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Re: Pistol of Choice

PostBy: Black_And_Blue On: Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:06 pm

10mm, it's the only way to be sure :
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Re: Pistol of Choice

PostBy: BIG BEAM On: Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:37 pm

That's what's next to my bed.S&W 1006.But it took me a while to get used to the recoil and the price was more than 3 or 4 hundred.
DON
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