Pistol of Choice

Re: Pistol of Choice

PostBy: danzig On: Thu Mar 05, 2009 5:12 pm

Go Glock get a good clean used one or a demo model. I can tell you where you can get a new one for 499 with 2 mags, cleaning kit, case, lock. and ammo loader. choose 40 s&w or 9mm.
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Re: Pistol of Choice

PostBy: mozz On: Thu Mar 05, 2009 6:46 pm

I would tell you a revolver is the best type of gun for a beginner. Get one in 22 caliber, ruger if they make one. A revolver will teach you lot of the basics. Do not get a glock, 1911 or any semi, or shotgun until you understand a simple revolver, either single action or double action. Then move up to a ruger mark2 semi in 22 caliber. Then a 38 special revolver. You may want to stop there or go up to a 357 which will change your view on the power that can be had in a firearm. I personally have a ruger SP101 bedside but i would be content with my ruger mark2 in 22 or any 38 special or a 12 gauge shotgun.
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Re: Pistol of Choice

PostBy: Devil505 On: Thu Mar 05, 2009 6:53 pm

What I don't like about revolvers is that I'm unaware of any that have safety's. (trigger locks are fine but not everyone uses them, every time. If young kids are ever in your house, I like safetys)
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Re: Pistol of Choice

PostBy: mozz On: Thu Mar 05, 2009 7:14 pm

I don't think a semi is good for a beginner. Think of glock, they used to have that little shoe on the trigger. Useless if you ask me. And yes, they do jam and misfire. My buddy was just hired as a police officer back in the late 80's? He was given a S&W model 10 for duty. He had bought a glock in 9mm and we went back in the woods to a old quarry to shoot it. I used to read everything and everything about guns back then. After he had shot it, he handed it to me and said "do you want to shoot it?" Loaded up the clip and took a few shots, then i held it loosely and to the side and fired it. It jammed. He could not understand as this was the future,latest, newest, plastic pistol that just came out. After i told him i read in a magazine about how they can jam and by holding it loose it looses it's recoil, he understood. I would not want a semi that would jam for home protection, what if you got into a fight and were struggling with the gun? Now, i have a S&W model 39 semi 9mm that i have fed a few thousand rounds of everything from 90 gr. up to 160 gr. roundnose and it works flawless, but capacity is only 8 rounds but it's a smith and wesson my favorite so i am biased. It has a safety and magazine safety.
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Re: Pistol of Choice

PostBy: acesover On: Thu Mar 05, 2009 8:57 pm

Look buddy I would not steer you wrong, go with a shotgun. What these guys are talking about cost big bucks and you need to practice, USED SHOTGUN 100$ done.
Ray
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Re: Pistol of Choice

PostBy: Devil505 On: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:07 pm

Hate to tell you guys but...I think we're just talking to ourselves here! :lol: ( on the 3rd page of this thread & haven't heard from CoaLen since the first post. ;)
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Re: Pistol of Choice

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:21 pm

I talk to my self all the time!! i say......glock sucks!! Sig rules!! my model 700 BDL in .338 ultra mag will reach out quite a ways to touch ya like a sledgehammer but the little .357 wheel gun can be picked up by anyone and fired.

If there are little kids in my house at nite......I am in the wrong house!! :roll:
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Re: Pistol of Choice

PostBy: acesover On: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:23 pm

You are right Dev, but these guys must make 75,000 a year and dont know what its like to be, well in the 30,000 rainge where I think this guy is comming from. Its nice to have money, I had it once. Now I'm retired. Could be wrong, but a shot gun is the way to go even for a rich guy. Just my take on the thing.
Ray
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Re: Pistol of Choice

PostBy: coal berner On: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:31 pm

acesover wrote:12 ga single, used $80, take a hacksaw cut to min legal length for your state, 00 buck. Done. No practice, no skill required, home defense done with piece of mind, you know you can get the job done, home intruders will know it too.
Ray

That would be 18" barrel with a over all lenght of 26" in any state Fedral law .
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Re: Pistol of Choice

PostBy: coal berner On: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:34 pm

mozz wrote:I would tell you a revolver is the best type of gun for a beginner. Get one in 22 caliber, ruger if they make one. A revolver will teach you lot of the basics. Do not get a glock, 1911 or any semi, or shotgun until you understand a simple revolver, either single action or double action. Then move up to a ruger mark2 semi in 22 caliber. Then a 38 special revolver. You may want to stop there or go up to a 357 which will change your view on the power that can be had in a firearm. I personally have a ruger SP101 bedside but i would be content with my ruger mark2 in 22 or any 38 special or a 12 gauge shotgun.

why by a 38 special when you can buy the same size in a 357 mag and shoot 38 special out of it
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Re: Pistol of Choice

PostBy: e.alleg On: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:46 pm

Home defense shotgun: 12 gauge pump Mossberg 500 or Remington 870 express magnum. Actually best survival tool ever is the 12 gauge pump gun - provides millions of hunters with turkey, grouse, squirrel, deer, bear, duck, duck, goose. How many people complain their 870 or 500 misfired or jammed up and didn't work? Not many. No bullcrap about owning one either, it's politically correct too. With kids around it's not the best as a ready to go home defense weapon , the ultimate is the Mosin-Nagant. Here's my reasoning, the Mosin you can put 4 rounds in the magazine well and close the bolt on an empty chamber and set the safety. The gun is basically loaded and at the same time unloaded but ready to use and will not fire if dropped or played with no matter what unless little johnny is he-man strong to unlock the safety.
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Re: Pistol of Choice

PostBy: e.alleg On: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:47 pm

coal berner wrote:
acesover wrote:12 ga single, used $80, take a hacksaw cut to min legal length for your state, 00 buck. Done. No practice, no skill required, home defense done with piece of mind, you know you can get the job done, home intruders will know it too.
Ray

That would be 18" barrel with a over all lenght of 26" in any state Fedral law .


I hear it's better to make it 27" overall, what if someone puts a shorter stock on or removes the recoil pad?
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Re: Pistol of Choice

PostBy: acesover On: Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:00 pm

HO come on, give me a brake.... you guys justn dont get it do you. give the guy what he needs. Thats .. all dont try to let us know how much money you have or how smart you have been. AHH too much of the bottal talking.
OVER AND OUT, good nite Chet & good nite David.
Ray
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Re: Pistol of Choice

PostBy: coal berner On: Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:06 pm

mozz wrote:I don't think a semi is good for a beginner. Think of glock, they used to have that little shoe on the trigger. Useless if you ask me. And yes, they do jam and misfire. My buddy was just hired as a police officer back in the late 80's? He was given a S&W model 10 for duty. He had bought a glock in 9mm and we went back in the woods to a old quarry to shoot it. I used to read everything and everything about guns back then. After he had shot it, he handed it to me and said "do you want to shoot it?" Loaded up the clip and took a few shots, then i held it loosely and to the side and fired it. It jammed. He could not understand as this was the future,latest, newest, plastic pistol that just came out. After i told him i read in a magazine about how they can jam and by holding it loose it looses it's recoil, he understood. I would not want a semi that would jam for home protection, what if you got into a fight and were struggling with the gun? Now, i have a S&W model 39 semi 9mm that i have fed a few thousand rounds of everything from 90 gr. up to 160 gr. roundnose and it works flawless, but capacity is only 8 rounds but it's a smith and wesson my favorite so i am biased. It has a safety and magazine safety.

Any auto can jammed if you limp wrist it they work on recoil blowback And if they are that bad tell me way over 56%
of law enforcement Agencies use them and over 50% of the military threw out the world uses them And why is everybody and there brother trying to copy them Including S&W . If my life depends on it I would take a Glock over any S&W including there New M & P models
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Re: Pistol of Choice

PostBy: coal berner On: Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:11 pm

e.alleg wrote:
coal berner wrote:
acesover wrote:12 ga single, used $80, take a hacksaw cut to min legal length for your state, 00 buck. Done. No practice, no skill required, home defense done with piece of mind, you know you can get the job done, home intruders will know it too.
Ray

That would be 18" barrel with a over all lenght of 26" in any state Fedral law .


I hear it's better to make it 27" overall, what if someone puts a shorter stock on or removes the recoil pad?

the law says 26" overall lenght if you look at a pistol grip shot gun with a 18" no stock on it barrel it is still 26" overall length .
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