stockingfull wrote:So it sure looks like the old "shorter lives save money" thesis is being dusted off in the GOP, at least in Mike's corner of it.
stockingfull wrote:It's "universal healthcare," Mike. It's the same healthcare you have and like (or should have and like if you don't), only everybody has it.
What about that don't you get?
stockingfull wrote:Mike, I'm serious: you're really onto something. In the 30's it was called the "Final Solution."
Gonna save you a ton of money.
stockingfull wrote:For the umpteenth time, focusing on preventative care will make it affordable.
stockingfull wrote:Who's said our plan is going to be identical to that of some particular other country for purposes of comparison?
I do not concede, any more than I did for your completely invalid "zero sum" analysis, that quality, or speed, or price will have to be sacrificed to reform the system -- at least as compared with the profit-driven private system we now have. To the contrary, I believe it will be better, faster and cheaper per capita than our currently-broken system.
My first name is Jon, and stockingfull refers to old yuletide threats when I was a kid. Get it?
stockingfull wrote:When are you guys gonna get it?
The reason HMO's made so many people rich is that they figured out that, by keeping people healthy with preventative care, you reduced the incidence of acute illness to such a degree that the savings not only paid for the preventative care but also the (reduced quantity of) acute care and the mansions and motor yachts of the insurance execs.
But you geniuses are still making widgets in a machine shop.