alaska model 140

alaska model 140

PostBy: the snowman On: Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:10 am

I've been thinking about installing a stoker and have looked at the Alaska auger feed model 140. Does anyone use this model or has anyone heard the good, the bad and the ugly on this model? I got a price of $4275 with T-stat. I currently use a hand fired Jotul 507. I would keep my hand fired and would power vent the stoker. I think the stoker would better heat the house compared to the Jotul. Thanks.

The snowman.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Jotul 507
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Re: alaska model 140

PostBy: Black_And_Blue On: Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:23 am

Alaska Co. has been excellent to me.

Paddle feed unit on mine, this was the recommendation I followed.
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska 140

Re: alaska model 140

PostBy: WNY On: Thu Mar 05, 2009 8:34 am

Quite a few on here that have them. I assume you will hook into your duct work of your furnace.
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Re: alaska model 140

PostBy: the snowman On: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:33 am

Yes, I would hook it into the duct work of the existing furnace. I'm concerned about the burn pot style and the durability of the auger and burn pot. Also how efficient is the 140? It would be nice if someone posted a video or pics of their 140 in use. I see they have an option of a second feed; how high does that second feeder push the btu output up to? In the real world how much coal does it actually burn and how long of a burn time do they actually get? Right now I'm heating 1060 sq. ft. with the Jotul at a temp of 72 F. The Jotul is running at full throttle 800-875 F at the loading door. My wife wants to heat the entire house next winter 2500 sq. ft. The only way that will happen is by using the existing duct work and installing a stoker. I love my Jotul, however, with the layout of my house, the Jotul struggles to heat the 1060 sq. ft. I could install my second Jotul, but then I would have two stoves running full throttle and they probably wouldn't be able to efficiently heat 2500 sq. ft. The one thing I liked about the 140 was the ability to strip it down to a very small size. I don't have an outside entrance way into my cellar so the stoker would have to fit down the narrow and steep stairway into the cellar.I have to make a correction concerning the price of the unit I posted. It is $4275 w/o t-stat and $4475 with t-stat. Is this dealer asking a lot of money for the unit? I'm willing to look at any of the manufactures that have a unit that can be taken apart like this unit and fill my need at a cheaper price. I'm not restricting myself to just a new unit either; I'll buy a used or reconditioned unit. I just want a unit that is reasonably priced, durable, one that will fit down my stairway and one that would meet my heating needs. I would love to hear from everyone who has a 140 or similar units. Thanks.

The snowman.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Jotul 507
Coal Size/Type: Nut, Stove coal, Egg coal

Re: alaska model 140

PostBy: WNY On: Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:40 pm

Most of the stoves can be disassembled to a certain point, removing the hopper, stokers, blowers, etc...

The Keystoker Koker and Leisure LIne Hyfire II are also good units too, The Koker that can be tied directly into your duct work, the Hyfire would need a Heat Jacket added.
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Re: alaska model 140

PostBy: shano06 On: Fri Mar 06, 2009 10:52 am

Ive had an Alaska 140 with a single feeder since October. I love the machine, it is pretty idiot proof. If you were to go with the auger feed, than you wouldnt be able to get another feeder, theonly advantage that I see with the auger feed is that you can burn wood pellets, Ive seen some people have had the auger jam up with coal, unless you really want to burn pellets I would go with the paddle feed. With my single paddle I am heating a 1200 square foot house with a full1200 square feet basement without tying into any duct work, the heat radiates without any problem. I do plan on buying a hot water coil for it this summer and that way the oil will only be on 5-6 months a year. From what Ive read on here get any of these stoves made in the USA except Reading, " F " the cast iron.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Alaska
Stove/Furnace Model: 140

Re: alaska model 140

PostBy: btrowe1 On: Fri Mar 06, 2009 4:55 pm

Love my 140, I'm heating 3000' I have the dual stoker 140 with paddles, I only use the 2nd stoker when it's real cold, -20's and then it is only for a week or so. I recommend the paddle also if you plan to burn coal only. I also believe there is not a dual stoker auger fed only the paddle feed is dual. But I could be wrong about that. I used 4 ton of rice this year, I keep my house at 68 and I am ducted into house system, There are quite a few 140 owners on here and I haven't read too many bad things about them or any stove on here..

Over $4000 sounds a bit pricey :o , I bought mine 3 years ago, for $3000,

Good luck on your search there are alot of good brands out there and doing your reseach is the correct way to start. :)
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Alaska stoker 140 Coal
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Re: alaska model 140

PostBy: the snowman On: Sat Mar 07, 2009 1:04 am

I see a trend here concerning the auger fed model. I have talked to a couple of people who have the auger and they wished they had purchased the other model. One person I talked to said they had the auger system break. They also said they had it jam a couple of times. They did say that Alaska quickly fixed the auger system and gave them a half ton of coal for the inconvenience of having the unit break down. I am told it broke down during the cold snap this season when we had temps of -25 F. I don't believe I would want an auger fed model. I wouldn't mind finding a used 140 or a cheap left over if they even exist.

The snowman.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Jotul 507
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Re: alaska model 140

PostBy: shano06 On: Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:02 am

Your in luck, check the second page on the classifieds towards the bottom of the main page, I hope it is still available for you. Good luck.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Alaska
Stove/Furnace Model: 140

Re: alaska model 140

PostBy: efo141 On: Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:05 am

the snowman wrote:I see a trend here concerning the auger fed model. I have talked to a couple of people who have the auger and they wished they had purchased the other model. One person I talked to said they had the auger system break. They also said they had it jam a couple of times. They did say that Alaska quickly fixed the auger system and gave them a half ton of coal for the inconvenience of having the unit break down. I am told it broke down during the cold snap this season when we had temps of -25 F. I don't believe I would want an auger fed model. I wouldn't mind finding a used 140 or a cheap left over if they even exist.

The snowman.

snowman, Did you check you message's ? I sent you a PM Thursday about a new auger feed for around $2500 I would of posted it here but i am not allowed to post for sale items unless they are my own.
Ed
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Re: alaska model 140

PostBy: the snowman On: Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:40 pm

Update:

Today I looked at a used 140 and found something I hadn't taken into consideration until today. The height of the unit with the duct work on top. After taking a few quick measurements I returned home and went in the cellar to measure my height. The unit would fit, however, I would not be able to put the square box on top for my duct work to connect to. I could cut the cement floor and lower a section of the floor so everything would work, however, I'm not willing to do that right now.

the snowman.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Jotul 507
Coal Size/Type: Nut, Stove coal, Egg coal

Re: alaska model 140

PostBy: Pacowy On: Mon Mar 09, 2009 12:59 am

I think you can make your own "square box"/plenum to fit the space you have - I don't think Alaska even sells a standard one. I made mine in about 20 minutes with some sheet metal from Home Depot, using the rip fence on my bench saw and a 2x4 in lieu of a brake, a manual seamer and a few self-tapping screws. While there are a few things to be aware of to get the best performance, it seems like unless you have an awfully low ceiling you should be able to work out something.

Mike
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Re: alaska model 140

PostBy: bladeguy1308 On: Tue Mar 10, 2009 7:40 pm

I purchased my dual paddle feed a few months ago and paid $3900 and it came with the digital thermostat. The auger feed was $4200 without the digital thermostat.

As for the plenum, I got one made at a sheet metal shop in town, $40. I brought them the dimensions and they whipped one up in a few hours. Mine is only 20 inches high.
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Stove/Furnace Model: Alaska 140

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