Help me with the switch(Fed-Up Woodburner)

Help me with the switch(Fed-Up Woodburner)

PostBy: NJTomatoguy On: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:08 pm

HI all,
just posted in the introductions forum. Was registered here a few years ago, when deciding whether to go wood or coal.
Went wood, because it was "free". It wasn't. Never bought wood, but burned up a car scrounging. Tired of being tied to the stove,
ruining my lunch hour rushing home to feed the woodstove.

I definitely will be putting in a stove, not a furnace. I have a hearth built, and am heating with wood now. I have the simpson
chimney kit, with single wall from stove to ceiling box. .

Can I use the same hearth?
I am heating about 800 sq ft. If you were getting into this, what stove would you get?
I will order coal delivered, and got quoted a price today. How many tons to heat 800 sq ft?
I would like to buy a used stove, Most hand fed stoves use nut size?

Thanks for all the help.
Bob
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Stove/Furnace Make: wood
Stove/Furnace Model: CFM240007

Re: Help me with the switch(Fed-Up Woodburner)

PostBy: Devil505 On: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:13 pm

I suggest you read up on stokers vs hand fireds. Your place is small so you don't need anything big or elaborate. Stokers can't burn wood & need electricity to run. Hand fired stoves are a bit more work than stokers but allot less work than your wood burner.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: TLC-2000

Re: Help me with the switch(Fed-Up Woodburner)

PostBy: NJTomatoguy On: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:24 pm

Devil, thanks for the reply. I want a hand fed, not anything that requires electricity.
Any suggestions on a particular model? I will do craigslist and other classifieds search.
Would the VC2310 be ok?

How about this stove. price seems right:


http://southjersey.craigslist.org/hsh/1057240569.html
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.

Waterford coal stove with a few scratches/$400
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Re: Help me with the switch(Fed-Up Woodburner)

PostBy: Devil505 On: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:29 pm

Goto the Hand Fired Forum & read some threads. There are many good brands to choose from & most of them are American.
800 sq ft is small so get something small.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: TLC-2000

Re: Help me with the switch(Fed-Up Woodburner)

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:41 pm

Harman Mark II or a Hitzer 30-95

http://www.harmanstoves.com/callouts.asp?id=14
http://www.hitzer.com/model30-95.html

I would go with the Hitzer 30-95 because of the top loading hopper KISS theory.
Can be had with or without fan but fan cannot be added later if you choose to order without!



DS Machine Stove.
A bit big for 800 sq but no electric

http://www.altheating.com/dsmachine.pdf
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Stoker Coal Boiler: want AA130
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine BS#4, Harman MKII, Hitzer 503,...
Coal Size/Type: Pea/Nut/Stove

Re: Help me with the switch(Fed-Up Woodburner)

PostBy: titleist1 On: Fri Mar 06, 2009 10:37 am

Since you are looking for used, start searching Craigslist, eBay, local penny pincher mags, etc. The Harman's, Hitzer's and a few other brands are all pretty good, which is the best deal will depend on the condition of the stove you find. From reading on here, it seems each has their own quirks which seem to be influenced by your install & chimney set up. The area you have to heat should be handled by a Mark II size stove easily, maybe even a Mark I size if you can get the heat distributed from the stove well. I would recommend getting a blower on the stove to help circulate the heat. On the Harman's it is a little loud for a living space, but you wouldn't need to have it on all the time. I don't know how loud the Hitzers or other's are.
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Mag Stoker (old style) one in basement, one in workshop
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III on standby for long power outages
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite; Nut/Anthracite

Re: Help me with the switch(Fed-Up Woodburner)

PostBy: 9mmruger On: Fri Mar 06, 2009 10:49 am

You can also get one of the heat activated fans like the Amish folks use. That is what I am getting when I put my stove in next month. I also have ceiling fans so really don't think that the blower will be necessary for me. Good luck in your search.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Hitzer
Stove/Furnace Model: 30-95

Re: Help me with the switch(Fed-Up Woodburner)

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Fri Mar 06, 2009 12:02 pm

Coal burns cooler than wood make sure the tempature range of the 'magic fan' is proper if you go that route.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: want AA130
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine BS#4, Harman MKII, Hitzer 503,...
Coal Size/Type: Pea/Nut/Stove

Re: Help me with the switch(Fed-Up Woodburner)

PostBy: 9mmruger On: Fri Mar 06, 2009 12:52 pm

Yeah, thanks for that, I am getting it from the stove guy and he assures me that it is designed for the coal stove. In fact, he had one on his stove when I went to see how it operates. Not cheap though. About $134.00 dollars for one, but absolutely silent, this is a good thing. :D
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Stove/Furnace Make: Hitzer
Stove/Furnace Model: 30-95

Re: Help me with the switch(Fed-Up Woodburner)

PostBy: duck On: Fri Mar 06, 2009 1:19 pm

Switched from burning wood to coal almost 20 years ago, I just can't believe the amount of time spent processing the wood back then. You won't regret it every thing is easier, don't let anybody tell you coal is more of a mess than wood. We just purchased a new Hitzer coal stove, to take the place of a Severn we had, just needed a little more coal capacity between 12 hour tending times. Coal fires last sooooooooooooo much longer than wood. There are good used stoves out there, some of the folks in the shop have made good buys, I just posted our Severn for $300. GOOD LUCK
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 30 95
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Re: Help me with the switch(Fed-Up Woodburner)

PostBy: Dann757 On: Fri Mar 06, 2009 4:01 pm

I saw a Monticello used on NJ craigs, decent vintage steel stove. I love mine, but the cast iron grates aren't available anymore.
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Re: Help me with the switch(Fed-Up Woodburner)

PostBy: grizzly2 On: Fri Mar 06, 2009 6:56 pm

I can recommend the Hitzer 30-95 after having one for just one year now. I got the blower model but would buy the non-blower if I had it to do over again. The top and a portion of the back are double wall to form a space for the air from the blower to pass over the stove and blow heat out the front. However the blower is fairly noisy and consumes 60 watts of electrical power to operate. The only problem with turning the blower off is that the double wall construction holds the heat in and if not blown out, some of the heat held in the stove goes up the chimney. I am heating 1200 sq. ft. in a colder climate than you are in. I believe the 30-95 without blower will heat your 800 sq. ft. space easily. You can always use a box fan on the floor to move the heat arround. I did that for many years of heating with wood. It appears that most folks with Harmans like their stoves also, and find they are easy to operate.

If you are looking to spend less money, I have seen Chubby and Warm Morining stoves on e-bay quite often. Owners of those stoves on this forum seem to like them too.

Good luck and let us know what you do. :)
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 30 - 95
Coal Size/Type: pea and nut/ anthracite
Other Heating: Jotul #3 wood stove in garage. Oil backup in house. Electric backup in house.

Re: Help me with the switch(Fed-Up Woodburner)

PostBy: 9mmruger On: Sat Mar 07, 2009 6:59 am

grizzly2, glad to read this comment as I ordered mine without the blower, and have been second guessing myself for a couple of days now. This allays any trepidation that I had. Thank you. My 30-95 will be here next week. :D
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Stove/Furnace Make: Hitzer
Stove/Furnace Model: 30-95

Re: Help me with the switch(Fed-Up Woodburner)

PostBy: dsteinel On: Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:53 am

about those "magic fans" that run on a stove top without use of electricity:

They sound too good to be true.... maybe because they are. I have had one for a couple of years. Even with my stove top temp at 600 degrees, that thing can't really push much air to circulate heat in my house. When it is cranked up to its maximum rpm, I put my face right in front of it about an inch away and can barely feel any air hitting me. I think they are a waste of money and wouldn't buy another.

Anybody else have any experience with these "magic fans"?
dsteinel
 

Re: Help me with the switch(Fed-Up Woodburner)

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:37 am

I will order coal delivered, and got quoted a price today.


Coal quality varies greatly, bad coal will make you regret your decision, good coal will make you wish you had made the switch years ago.
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Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert

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