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Post by Flyer5 » Sat. Mar. 07, 2009 3:45 pm

Well sort of anyway . 2004 VW TDI Jetta . toothy :D

 
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Post by Complete Heat » Sat. Mar. 07, 2009 4:09 pm

Put a Grease Car system into it and run it on waste vegetable oil. I have been running my truck on WVO for a year now (Veggie Stroke 3) and it is fabulous. I smell like french fries going down the road.

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Post by whistlenut » Sat. Mar. 07, 2009 4:52 pm

Perhaps you don't notice, but the 'french fry' smell is in reality not quite far enough down the digestive tract to be equal. I'm sensing waaaaayyyyyy down the digestive tract....not very far from the exit orifice! :flush: :flush: :flush: :flush:

A courtesy flush would be very kind of you! :annoyed: :funny:

 
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Post by Cap » Sat. Mar. 07, 2009 9:37 pm

I've owned four MB's. All 617 turbo diesels. 5 cylinder. Two wagons 300TD's a coupe 300CD and a four door 300SD. Can't kill a 617.952 MB diesel. May be the most durable passenger car engine ever built. Used worldwide.
I really like the VW TDI. Much better mpg than the 617 engine.

 
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Post by zeeklu » Sun. Mar. 08, 2009 8:40 am

I bought my 2000 Jetta new in November of 99. It has 195,000 miles on it and burns a 1/2 quart of oil every 5000 .I get about 50mpg consistantly. It's a good car but if you have to get it serviced at a VW dealer it will get expensive fast. Chris


 
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Post by europachris » Sun. Mar. 08, 2009 9:21 am

I've got a 2002 TDI Wagon with 136K on it so far and it's never been to a dealer, and only into a shop a few times. Fantastically reliable so far - only a few of the typical "VW" issues. I'm about ready for my second set of struts/shocks (Monroe Sensatraks are AMAZING - way better handling and control but still very supple - handles/rides like a European car should, not a Buick - the OEM units are crap from day 1 and are gone by 50K) and just did both front wheel bearings and lower ball joints a month or so ago - the left side went out so I just did both. NOT a fun or easy job, but not too bad. The timing belt job was worse, especially when you do all the rollers, tensioner and water pump which is highly recommended since the newest belts go 100K.

Still on the original front brakes and did the rear about 20K ago, I change the Delvac-1 every 10k miles and drive it like I stole it.

Oh, one downside of VW TDI ownership - cleaning out the intake manifold. The EGR mixed with the oil mist from the crankcase causes a nice sludge buildup (very much like creosote) in the intake. I pulled mine at 130K and cleaned it. It was not nearly as bad as some I've seen pics of with half the miles. They will plug shut, especially with short trips and *censored*-foot driving. The manifold R&R was pretty easy - cleaning it was a big f'n MESS. But for $20 in gaskets and Simple Green, it was worth it rather than $500+ at the dealer.
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Post by Cap » Sun. Mar. 08, 2009 9:30 am

one downside of VW TDI ownership - cleaning out the intake manifold. The EGR mixed with the oil mist from the crankcase
There was a fix to this issue on the 617 MB engine. Simply stick a bb in the vacuum hose to the EGR valve. Not sure if you can shutdown the EGR on the VW but since no emissions are tested on diesels in PA....

 
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Post by cArNaGe » Sun. Mar. 08, 2009 9:39 am

Isn't it time to break the BMW out? Your going to drive a car?

 
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Post by europachris » Sun. Mar. 08, 2009 9:59 am

Cap wrote:There was a fix to this issue on the 617 MB engine. Simply stick a bb in the vacuum hose to the EGR valve. Not sure if you can shutdown the EGR on the VW but since no emissions are tested on diesels in PA....
It can be done on the VW with a few additional "mods" so it doesn't throw the check engine light. I figure I won't need to clean mine again until 250k, and I probably will sell it by then.

Now, don't get me started on the POS Liberty CRD my wife drives! :mad: That thing is on it's 4th EGR valve in 60K miles. First three were under warranty/recall, but the last one I had to eat - $160 just for the valve (electric solenoid operated and water cooled). I replaced it myself rather than the stealer doing it for $600. I now have a little gizmo box made up by a fellow CRD'er to disable the EGR and fool the ECM that it's still working. Quite the sophisticated bit of circuitry! I have it assembled and will splice it into the harness as soon as it warms up a bit. The engine is a 2.8L 16valve common rail 4 cylinder by VM Motori. It's a sweet little engine and it's FAST. Too bad it's surrounded by a bunch of shitty under-engineered Daimler/Chrysler parts. :blowup:

 
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Post by e.alleg » Sun. Mar. 08, 2009 11:12 am

I joined the oil burning club too :oops: 7.3 powerstroke in a F350 SuperDuty. The thing is unreal, 500 ft.lbs of torque, 444 cubic inches, and it gets more than 20 miles per gallon.


 
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Post by lincolnmania » Sun. Mar. 08, 2009 11:23 am

diesels are nice, but too expensive lol
trying to get my buddy from oregon out here to visit me for a few months......he's an out of work diesel mechanic, and he wants to put a 6.5 turbodiesel from a gmc truck in a lincoln town car......was down to pottstown the other day visiting a friend, and he happens to be parting out a truck with a 6.5 lol........thought of using the cummins or the powerstroke, but they are just too big and heavy

 
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Post by europachris » Sun. Mar. 08, 2009 11:48 am

I always thought it would be fun to take a early to mid 50's Chevy or GMC medium duty and swap in a Detroit Diesel 4-53T (or 6V-53T if adventurous), and then put in enough transmission to be able to cruise at a decent speed/rpm on the highway.

Yes, they are loud and leaky, but what a sound! I had the (mis)fortune of being able to keep tabs on a backup generator we had at a previous employer - it was 1000kW and powered by a 16V-149T Detroit. Yes, that's 2384 cubic inches or about 39 liters. It had a muffler the size of a small van, and it still rattled your eyeballs standing next to it at 1800 rpm. But, she started up every time!

 
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Post by Flyer5 » Sun. Mar. 08, 2009 5:24 pm

zeeklu wrote:I bought my 2000 Jetta new in November of 99. It has 195,000 miles on it and burns a 1/2 quart of oil every 5000 .I get about 50mpg consistantly. It's a good car but if you have to get it serviced at a VW dealer it will get expensive fast. Chris
I do all my own maintenance . Did it professionally for 14yrs . Service not an issue . Parts aren't to out of line . Paid $230 for new water pump ,Timing belt ,serp belt ,all the pulleys and a bolt kit , Plus I also ordered all the filters and a timing belt tool kit and the fluids . Total w/shipping was just over $400 including the belt kit . Dave

 
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Post by Flyer5 » Sun. Mar. 08, 2009 5:27 pm

cArNaGe wrote:Isn't it time to break the BMW out? Your going to drive a car?
My wife won't let me put my 2yr old daughter on the back yet . Plus my truck needs some serious maintenance so that will be down for a little while . I have already had the beemer out a few times . Rode it to work a few times already as well . One morning it was 10degrees ,but beautiful riding home . Dave

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