Chinese Made Products

Re: Chinese Made Products

PostBy: tvb On: Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:39 pm

Above and beyond the quality of goods made in China, it seems to me that it's in the best interest of our economy to try and buy American made goods as much as possible. Ditch the Walmart excursions and their cheap Chinese junk in favor of your neighborhood merchant employing your neighbors making and selling American made stuff if you can. Your neighbors will appreciate the business and you'll be contributing to the stimulus here instead of China's.
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Re: Chinese Made Products

PostBy: Cap On: Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:15 pm

in favor of your neighborhood merchant employing your neighbors making and selling American made stuff if you can.

Dude, wake up. There are no consumer products made in the USA except frozen & canned food, chemical cleaners and maybe some furniture & appliances. Plenty of industrial grade products still made here...for now.

Your local merchant is the problem. They operate Gas stations.
Do you think the corner merchant only sells products made in the US? Maybe the hotdog & soda for $2.00...oh, and the lottery ticket. Definitely made in the US.
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Re: Chinese Made Products

PostBy: tvb On: Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:59 pm

I never claimed it was easy but if you do some homework before parting with your American dollars, it's not impossible. Lots of stuff you won't find American made but there are still many small manufacturers out there putting out quality items and with the innertubes, it's far easier to find that stuff than it was 10 or 15 years ago.
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Re: Chinese Made Products

PostBy: gambler On: Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:37 pm

You can go to the local merchant and buy the same chinese stuff (at 3 times the price) that you get at the big box stores. I try to support my local merchants but at the same time I don't like being ripped off. If you remember back in the fall I bought a shovel from the local store. Nothing special just a basic shovel that said USA all over it. I payed probably about twice what I could have gotten it for at the Home Depot but felt good thinking my money was saving an American workers job. When I got home and was looking over the shovel in little letters above "USA" was the word "TEMPERED". So I looked closer at the shovel and found "made in china". So my shovel that cost me twice as much was made in china but tempered in the USA. What a crock! They should not be allowed to put "USA" on anything that was made else where.
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Re: Chinese Made Products

PostBy: tvb On: Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:43 pm

They should not be allowed to put "USA" on anything that was made else where.


I totally agree.
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Re: Chinese Made Products

PostBy: Richard S. On: Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:49 am

Cap wrote:We resent the rip offs that come out of China.


Not widely known but copyright theft is very high there specifically DVD's, software, etc.

Cap wrote: There are no consumer products made in the USA except frozen & canned food.


Well I wouldn't go that far, that nice green tent I had last summer you saw was made in the U.S.A but it wasn't bought at Wal-Mart for $50 either. Matter of fact when I was buying camping equipment back in "the day" everything that was quality was made in the U.S.A. I don't know what the situation is now but there is certainly a lot of very good products made here. You just have to look for them and be prepared to open your wallet.

The problem is when Joe Schmoe goes to buy a tent he's looking for the cheapest thing he can find and he's satisfied with it right up until the point it starts raining or he gets hit with the big wind storm on Assateague island... that was funny day... all them numbnuts with cheesy tents running around trying to stop everything from blowing away, tents getting all ripped up if they didn't blow away while we're drinking beer. :lol: He's not concerned about how long it will last either because he can just go buy another one.

Having said that people are stupid, they are going to spend more over their lifetime by purchasing like that instead of just doing it right the first time.
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Re: Chinese Made Products

PostBy: stovepipemike On: Mon Mar 09, 2009 7:59 am

To put it all in dollar perspective,recently I needed a replacement blade on the metal cutting bandsaw.Two kinds were stocked.One from China for $9.99 and one from Oregon for $16.99.They were both laminated and tempered bi-metal construction.I truly did step back and try to decide if there was $7.00 worth of difference in front of me.The one from Oregon is on the saw and I hope the quality is worth the difference.We presently are collectively getting squeezed out of the freedom to have this buying flexibility.If this economy doesn't straighten out real soon,buying an American made sawblade vs. one from China will be the very least of my decisions,I guarantee it. Mike
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Re: What Brand of Stoker Stove is Best

PostBy: madeinchina On: Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:49 am

Wood'nCoal wrote:Agreed, Lisa.

Remember China is still a Communist country. Buying Chinese made products is supporting a Socialist government. Unfortunately our stores are flooded with products made in China. Sometimes there is no choice.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s ... c_of_China


I am chinese living in Beijing, China
1. Communist leaders in middle to high level have their family members in American, invest in American. They and you Americans are brothers and sisters. You are in the same front line.
2. Products made by chinese are from hands like mine, an utter lowest class. Boycott can simply hurts me, my brothers and sisters living in China.
3.Remember what you American soliders found from palace of Iraq. Look the effect of years of sanction.
China has 1.4 billion population, if your sanction killed 1 billion, the leader would be still leader, the rich would be still rich, but I would be among the 1 billion disappeared from the earth.
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Re: Chinese Made Products

PostBy: AdkCoal On: Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:33 am

China's biggest export is their low standard of living.

Because of their low standards they work dirt cheap and jobs for American workers go over there. The same is true of Mexico and India.

When jobs go to these countries because of their low wages, the American standard of living is ultimately reduced. :mad:
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Re: What Brand of Stoker Stove is Best

PostBy: titleist1 On: Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:44 am

madeinchina wrote:China has 1.4 billion population, if your sanction killed 1 billion, the leader would be still leader, the rich would be still rich, but I would be among the 1 billion disappeared from the earth.


It sounds like you and your 999,999,999 compadres need to kick out your leaders and improve things for yourselves. Asking me to buy your goods will only prolong your lousy situation since your rich will only continue to take advantage of you.
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Re: Chinese Made Products

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:03 am

1. Communist leaders in middle to high level have their family members in American, invest in American. They and you Americans are brothers and sisters. You are in the same front line.


I disagree. We are not in the "same front line". Manufacturing and jobs are disappearing in the United States, industry is suffering, corporations are seeking bigger profits and the ability to sell their products at a low price. The availability of foreign-made products is a convenient solution. In China industry is humming along, making the "leaders" richer as the world is flooded with their products.

2. Products made by chinese are from hands like mine, an utter lowest class. Boycott can simply hurts me, my brothers and sisters living in China


True, the lowest classes of people in China do the "dirty work" and don't see the benefit of all their hard work. Maybe I would see this differently if the exports of American-made products became equal to what China exports here.

Sorry to say I am more concerned with America and our way of life.

if your sanction killed 1 billion, the leader would be still leader, the rich would be still rich


So much for the Communist theology that "everyone is equal, everyone has the same size piece of the pie".
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Re: Chinese Made Products

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:29 am

It sounds like you and your 999,999,999 compadres need to kick out your leaders and improve things for yourselves.


Try that in a Communist country and you and all your comrades will conveniently "disappear".
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Re: What Brand of Stoker Stove is Best

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:56 am

madeinchina wrote:
Wood'nCoal wrote:Agreed, Lisa.

Remember China is still a Communist country. Buying Chinese made products is supporting a Socialist government. Unfortunately our stores are flooded with products made in China. Sometimes there is no choice.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s ... c_of_China


I am chinese living in Beijing, China
1. Communist leaders in middle to high level have their family members in American, invest in American. They and you Americans are brothers and sisters. You are in the same front line.
2. Products made by chinese are from hands like mine, an utter lowest class. Boycott can simply hurts me, my brothers and sisters living in China.
3.Remember what you American soliders found from palace of Iraq. Look the effect of years of sanction.
China has 1.4 billion population, if your sanction killed 1 billion, the leader would be still leader, the rich would be still rich, but I would be among the 1 billion disappeared from the earth.


first of all, as if I really believe you are what you say you are. ....... I dont!
second, as an "utter lowest class" funny you can afford to have a computer
third and most important to me..... From my gut feeling of you, I DONT CARE ;)
sad to see this. your cities air polution is five times worse . 17 billion dollars spent to clean it up and still terrible.
now you want us to believe your allowed to burn coal for heat? TROLL go home.
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Re: Chinese Made Products

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:26 am

second, as an "utter lowest class" funny you can afford to have a computer


Good point.

But I do love Shlimp and Blockley.
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Re: Chinese Made Products

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:11 pm

There is no evidence this guy is a troll nor is he responsible for his governments actions. Since he is a member, lets try to show him a little respect and see how this plays out. If he was from Iceland or Borneo would I be seeing the same things posted here?

Poconoeagle wrote:funny you can afford to have a computer

It appears his access is at his place of employment.
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