Chinese Made Products

Re: Chinese Made Products

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:35 pm

e.alleg wrote:Onehitwonder aka madeinchina has a good point about Chinese made products. In China you can probably buy a quality coal stove in which they used high quality steel and a good design. China has been burning coal since day 1. In the USA you can't buy a high quality Chinese stove which is the basis of my opinion and i stand by it. The Chinese made products here are simply not as good as the US made products. They are cheaper in every way. So blame the importers, the exporters, Walmart, Carter, whoever... the reality is if you want to heat with coal buy a PA built unit not one that was floated over for as cheap as possible.


Right-On......Trogalodytes.......sock it too em..... can't do that today fellows cause it might fall off.....

They seem to have the ability but without the ability for profit why should they.. and I am good with thier choice!
Poconoeagle
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Buckwalter & Co. , EFM520
Stove/Furnace Model: No. 28 Glenwood 1880, Alaska

Re: Chinese Made Products

PostBy: madeinchina On: Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:27 am

SuperBeetle wrote:
coaledsweat wrote:Well so far his posts have been both complimentary and respectful with no attempt to sell or agitate. Keep in mind he is from a very different world and his comments about Chinese products and society are probably not going to win him a gold star. He is taking a lot bigger chance than anyone here, cut him some slack for now and stick to the topic.

Sorry, I thought he was trying to promote Chinese products. Maybe I missed something :?:

I am selling nothing from China.
But why you guys are hard toward China goods.
I am sure most of you can not avoid goods from China.
From my side, I like American goods.
My computer uses American chips. I take American airplane. Even electricity is from GE turbines.
and I must eat American wheat, bean as China import from American for decades.
and I watch Hollywood movies online,pirated.
China even imported wheat in 1990 just after June 4 affair when American govemrment shouted loudly to sanction China goverment.
I do not think American people have China currency in acocunt. But every "rich" Chinese people ( I guess 20% of total population) must have US dollar deposit.
MOST Chinese people are kind toward American people, American goverment, American goods.
and corrupted officials love American more as most have their falimy memebers in American, money deposit in American, and real estate in American.
Buy why so many Americans feel so bad toward Chinese people.
Chinese people must like American political system more than our own.
Political, socilism, curruption shall not be the reasons.
I have to conclude most American are shorteyed, less educated, a frog falling in a well takes a piece of light as whole sky.
madeinchina
 

Re: Chinese Made Products

PostBy: Richard S. On: Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:07 am

madeinchina wrote:But why you guys are hard toward China goods.


Because most of the people here are looking for quality, certainly if you're looking for a cheap product an import will most likely provide the best value for the dollar but to put it bluntly the manufactures here don't make cheap junk. Just to add there is even a few manufactuer here that are going to fall into that "junk" category but if you buy for example a EFM you have made a lifetime investment.

They may not be able to compete with Chinese products on the low end but when the quality of the unit rises the playing field begins to even because the cheap labor and other factors become less. ;)

That's besides the fact do i want to spend my money to benefit my neighbor or send it overseas?
Richard S.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert VA1200
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/Anthracite


Re: Chinese Made Products

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:09 am

madeinchina wrote:Buy why so many Americans feel so bad toward Chinese people.


That is a good question. I think most of it is ignorance and fear. This is what separates people more often than not and leads to things no one really wants. What we are doing here, communicating, is a great way to deal with this and correct the problem. Stay in touch and good luck, both our countries are going to need us to focus on what is good for us as our leaders can not always do that.
coaledsweat
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260M
Coal Size/Type: Pea

Re: Chinese Made Products

PostBy: Dann757 On: Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:36 am

madeinchina wrote:I have to conclude most American are shorteyed, less educated, a frog falling in a well takes a piece of light as whole sky.


OK
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Re: Chinese Made Products

PostBy: Richard S. On: Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:53 am

WE don't need to go down the insult path, please be aware that madeinchina is most likely using a translator for these posts and the exact meaning of what he is trying to say could be lost in translation.
Richard S.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert VA1200
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/Anthracite

Re: Chinese Made Products

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:32 am

Your century's of history provide a much better picture of your race's ability to devour its own, as opposed to our mere 200+ years of seperating ourselves from that type of tyrrany!

We are not forced to eat anything!! wheat or otherwise 8-)
Poconoeagle
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Buckwalter & Co. , EFM520
Stove/Furnace Model: No. 28 Glenwood 1880, Alaska

Re: Chinese Made Products

PostBy: Freddy On: Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:44 am

Did anyone see on the national news the other night about the sheet rock (drywall) from China? It's not a good story. 300 )or 500?) million tons of dry wall imported from China in the last couple of years. A high percentage of it is going bad. For some reason it absorbs moisture right out of the air, bulges, and falls from the ceilings and sometimes the walls. While bloated it starts growing mold & smelly germs. They said about 65,000 homes are going to have to be bulldozed because of it. I guess it's cheaper to start over than to remove and replace it. One buy paid extra to make sure he got made in USA drywall. His went bad....they tested it...it was from China. Now they're chasing backwards to find out how that happened. The contractor has paperwork showing he bought USA stuff. It's a big mess!
Freddy
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 130 (pea)
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Reading piece o' junk in the barn (rice)
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Re: Chinese Made Products

PostBy: KLook On: Fri Apr 03, 2009 6:11 pm

Presently there are at least 80 foreign students at the local high school. Most are Asian and many are Chinese. There are another whole bunch at another school in Lee Maine. The wealthy parents of these kids want them "americanized" so they send them here to school and they pay about 30 to 35,000 thousand per yer per student! These 2 schools are semi-private so this is how they try to survive the consolidation(socialization) of schools going on in Maine at this time. They are now teaching Chinese as a second language at the Magnet School in Limestone Maine instead of French or Spanish. The Magnet School is the states attempt to give high learners a place to go to seperate them from the distractions of our normal schools. At any rate, China will continue to become a force in the world at all levels.

Kevin
KLook
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Harman VF 3000
Coal Size/Type: rice, bagged, Blaschak
Stove/Furnace Make: Harman (Back In Maine)
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Re: Chinese Made Products

PostBy: Steve.N On: Sat Apr 04, 2009 8:39 am

Unfortunately traders push China manufacturers hard and hard on price, and in turn China manufacturers lower and lower quality to keep a small margin.
There is no free lunch.
You will get what you paid for


That is from Madeinchina's first post and I think that says it all. Madeinchina is obviously proud of manufacturing in his country as we are of our's. The problem is the Walmarts and Habor Freights and other importers want to make the largest profit possible and a large portion of the American public want nothing but low prices. Quality and cheap just don't go hand in hand.
Steve.N
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Harman mkII
Stove/Furnace Model: Axeman Anderson 260 at store

Re: Chinese Made Products

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Sat Apr 04, 2009 9:30 am

Quality is not expensive,.....it's Priceless!

nothing beats quality, ... like low prices!! chicken or egg?? ;)
Poconoeagle
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Buckwalter & Co. , EFM520
Stove/Furnace Model: No. 28 Glenwood 1880, Alaska