Hey O bama lovers (or zombies)

Hey O bama lovers (or zombies)

PostBy: av8r On: Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:09 am

You wanted it...you got it. Now we all get to live with the consequences.


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In his book Das Kapital, Karl Marx wrote ominously in 1867:

"Owners of capital will stimulate the working class to buy more and more of expensive goods, houses and technology, pushing them to take more and more expensive credits, until their debt becomes unbearable. The unpaid debt will lead to bankruptcy of banks, which will have to be nationalized and the State will have to take the road which will eventually lead to Communism."

It helps to have willing accomplices in the White House and in Congress. Sadly, Marx's prediction is eerily wending its way through the American system.



A new Fox Dynamics Poll shows really how much trouble we currently have in America. Universal food? Should the government provide food for every person? In the FOX Poll, 68% say yes. Healthcare? 66% say yes. Housing? 52% say yes. A job, 51% say yes.



51% of Americans today say everybody who wants one should be provided a job. People haven't been taught why socialism is bad. We can no longer sit back, just go to work, and assume everything is going to be okay. America voted for "change." Contrary to what conservatives have been saying, the FOX Poll seems to indicate that the voters may very well have known exactly the type of change they wanted. Is there any doubt that Obama, Pelosi and Reid are going to attempt to deliver European-style socialism to America by the end of 2010?



Or, would it be more correct to say that they are going to deliver "more than socialism"? Nationalizing banks and dictating to private corporations is beyond socialism; we are moving towards a Marxist State. When the Obama stimulus package fails, as it will, there will be a demand for more government. This is exactly what happened in the 1930's.



The difference between the 1930's and now is that we are already a long ways down the road now; Roosevelt was just building the foundation for socialism back then. In 1930, federal spending as a percent of GDP was 4.4%, compared to 20% today - before the bailouts and stimulus packages are added. When California state and local taxes are added in, we have a 35.5% ratio between taxes and GDP. That is the average for all Californians. Since we have a progressive tax, and since over 1/3 of all California workers pay no federal or state income taxes, imagine what the average is for the average taxpayer.



If you aren't concerned about what President Obama is trying to do to the United States, you aren't paying attention. He is striking while the iron is hot. He is capitalizing on his electoral victory in November, 2008, and instituting the visisons of V.I. Lenin, who promoted the following:



"Deepen, exacerbate existing problems, crises, differences, and if they don't exist, create them or convincingly claim that they exist, and then deepen, exacerbate them...and profit [politically, ideologically and even financially] the most from them in any way you can, and, in the resulting chaos, blame our enemies for the whole thing." – Vladimir Ilich Ulianov (Lenin)



The American founders provided its descendants the land of opportunity. The United States has been a magnet for those seeking freedom, liberty, and the "pursuit of happiness." For more than two centuries, America has been the beacon of hope for a better life. It was never intended to be a guarantee of happiness. By its very nature, life provides its ups and downs for everyone. In America, we have had the freedom to succeed or fail based on our God-given talents and abilities.



Some can run and jump like Lebron James while others can sing like Celine Dion. Still others can make technological breakthroughs like Bill Gates and Steve Jobs, while others entertain us like Clint Eastwood. Some have business acumen, and some can do wonderful things with their hands - whether it be a pianist or a sculptor. Some people are outgoing extroverts while others are more analytical. Vive la difference.



Up until now, America has attracted and encouraged a unique brand of exceptionalism. By invoking the word "Change," and taking advantage of a financial challenge similar to many we have survived over the years, President Obama is seeking to fundamentally change the very foundation of our society by applying the famous Marxist edict without saying it in so many words: "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs."



On June 5, 1778, Patrick Henry said in a speech at the Virginia Ratifying Convention,



"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined."


If now is not time for another major Tea Party, there never will be a time.
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Re: Hey O bama lovers (or zombies)

PostBy: Ed.A On: Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:26 am

Was this what you were trying to link to?
http://www.newmediajournal.us/terrorism.htm
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.


I've been reading reports of this everywhere.....our worst fears are becoming a reality. I must give him credit, we all figured him to be a splineless leader ala Clinton, he's living up to that just 7 weeks in.

Then we see this: http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=369 from San Fransisco, All Praise Alla....or die I guess.
Actually it just cracks me up because if this was a Christian sponsored signage program all hell would break loose.
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Re: Hey O bama lovers (or zombies)

PostBy: Devil505 On: Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:30 am

Ed.A wrote:I've been reading reports of this everywhere.....our worst fears are becoming a reality. I must give him credit, we all figured him to be a splineless leader ala Clinton, he's living up to that just 7 weeks in.


A large majority of us American voters decided on 11/6/2008 that you guys had come close enough to destroying this county & the world & that we wanted new leadership. We have it now. Cya in 4 years! :P
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Re: Hey O bama lovers (or zombies)

PostBy: jpete On: Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:36 am

You guys justs couldn't stand to let the R's take credit for anything can you? Now the D's can hog all the glory of destroying the country. Good job.
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Re: Hey O bama lovers (or zombies)

PostBy: av8r On: Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:42 am

jpete wrote:You guys justs couldn't stand to let the R's take credit for anything can you? Now the D's can hog all the glory of destroying the country. Good job.


I couldn't type fast enough...he left that one out there just hangin'!!!
LOL....

And for the record...I gave up any party affiliation long ago. They're all cheats and liars. We need a major reset. I think it's coming.
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Re: Hey O bama lovers (or zombies)

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:46 am

av8r wrote:
jpete wrote:You guys justs couldn't stand to let the R's take credit for anything can you? Now the D's can hog all the glory of destroying the country. Good job.


I couldn't type fast enough...he left that one out there just hangin'!!!
LOL....

And for the record...I gave up any party affiliation long ago. They're all cheats and liars. We need a major reset. I think it's coming.


Ditto. I did also... yep something is coming, hopefully we willl all survive it! :D
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Re: Hey O bama lovers (or zombies)

PostBy: Ed.A On: Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:30 am

Devil505 wrote:
Ed.A wrote:I've been reading reports of this everywhere.....our worst fears are becoming a reality. I must give him credit, we all figured him to be a splineless leader ala Clinton, he's living up to that just 7 weeks in.


A large majority of us American voters decided on 11/6/2008 that you guys had come close enough to destroying this county & the world & that we wanted new leadership. We have it now. Cya in 4 years! :P


I would say IMO you are Incorrect, even people I know that were against the war never wanted us to capitulate and not one that I've talked to want the Taliban return to power. You being in the probable 55% of Liberals wanting us to Fail in Iraq and now Afganistan, I guess you would be happy. Good for you, please go and report on Sharia Law and how it helps us all.

I don't consider myself a Republican anymore, haven't in quite some time, but I'm a proud conservative. I am a card carrying Republican member though, I feel the Primary process is to important to give up and helps us decide our Parties direction.....well at least it counts on the local level quite clearly.
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Re: Hey O bama lovers (or zombies)

PostBy: ken On: Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:44 am

14 Jan 2009 01:43 pm

Laura of 11D says this quote is making the rounds of Wall Street.


Owners of capital will stimulate the working class to buy more and more of expensive goods, houses and technology, pushing them to take more and more expensive credits, until their debt becomes unbearable. The unpaid debt will lead to bankruptcy of banks, which will have to be nationalised, and the State will have to take the road which will eventually lead to communism.

Karl Marx, Das Kapital, 1867


It's been fifteen years since I read Das Kapital, and I'm not sure how much I retained even when I was young and hale. But it immediately set off my fake alarms. First, because it doesn't sound remotely like anything I remember Marx saying--his core thesis was that falling wages would immiserate the working class, not that they'd be done in by their overdrafts. Second, because I do remember Marx spending huge chunks of Das Kapital grousing about the inadequacy of the housing supply for the working class, in very tedious detail. (I now appreciate, as I didn't then, how valuable this is as a historic record. But it's quite something to wade through.) And third, because no one in 1870 imagined the working class having access to bank credit. Poor people might get some time from the landlord, or a few weeks at the butcher, or they might run arrears and pay on account, but they did not buy substantial goods on credit. The first mass extension of credit to people who did not own land was the boom in installment buying that came in the 1920s.
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Re: Hey O bama lovers (or zombies)

PostBy: Devil505 On: Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:30 am

Ed.A wrote:I don't consider myself a Republican anymore

Well I sure as Hell do. (You may not consider yourself a Caucasian anymore but that doesn't change your skin color, now does it?)

Ed.A wrote:You being in the probable 55% of Liberals wanting us to Fail in Iraq

Fail?? ..You can't even define WIN! (we "Failed" in Iraq the moment we decided to invade with no good reason. It's called a war of aggression & was done to fatten Exxon-Mobil's bottom line. I don't remember being attacked by Iraq....Do you?)
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Re: Hey O bama lovers (or zombies)

PostBy: Ed.A On: Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:45 am

Chilling video. Such peaceful people :roll:
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Re: Hey O bama lovers (or zombies)

PostBy: Ed.A On: Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:50 am

Wow Dick, your post was completely nonsensical. I think your Tinfoil hat is on a bit to tight.

Now, would you care to comment on the very pertinent video that Av8er posted?
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Re: Hey O bama lovers (or zombies)

PostBy: Devil505 On: Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:03 pm

Devil505 wrote:Ed.A wrote:Wow Dick, your post was completely nonsensical. I think your Tinfoil hat is on a bit to tight.


Pretty easily understandable to most people Ed. I'm guessing that you understand it fine........that you just did not agree with it? ;)


Devil505 wrote:Now, would you care to comment on the very pertinent video that Av8er posted?


Sure.......Mankind can be brutal. (no argument from me there)

I also understand that even in this..... the 21st Century...There are actually "So Called" Civilized countries that will pick up (sometimes innocent) men off the street & TORTURE them.....sometimes to death!!,,,Can you believe that??
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Re: Hey O bama lovers (or zombies)

PostBy: Devil505 On: Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:13 pm

Ed.A wrote:I don't consider myself a Republican anymore, haven't in quite some time, but I'm a proud conservative.


May I ask when you stopped considering yourself a Republican Ed & why? (Any specific things the Republican Party did or didn't do that angered you so much?
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Re: Hey O bama lovers (or zombies)

PostBy: jpete On: Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:46 pm

I won't speak for Ed but I stopped considering myself an R after they starting acting like D's. If I'm an R, it's a Goldwater R and they ran all of them out of the party nearly a decade before I was born. :)
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Re: Hey O bama lovers (or zombies)

PostBy: spc On: Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:03 pm

jpete wrote:I stopped considering myself an R after they starting acting like D's
Well put Jeff.

IMO this is what conservatism is.

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