The Cause of Global Warming

Re: The Cause of Global Warming

PostBy: Ed.A On: Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:07 pm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/b ... s-resupply
Arctic ice expedition relief as supply plane landsArctic survey supply plane finally lands on the ice after explorers nearly run out of food.

This was 17 miles into a 85 mile trek, out of food, waaaaaay behind schedule, why? Cold and Winter-like Conditions.....Surprise!! I guess they believed in Lord Al Gore a bit to much to actually care to see if he's telling them the truth, I guess tank-tops and shorts weren't the clothes they should be wearing :lol:
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Re: The Cause of Global Warming

PostBy: stockingfull On: Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:42 pm

Which came first, the elevated CO2 or the temp increase? :roll:

What's the reason for the astronomically high CO2 levels, never before seen on the planet, at this time? The correlation between that and the unprecedented (in the history of the planet) mining of carbon-based fuels is ... pure coincidence???
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Re: The Cause of Global Warming

PostBy: BillMarti On: Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:29 pm

How many volcanoes does it take to cause this mess. How many have gone off in the last 50 years and you think the little bit of man made CO2 matters how. Sometimes you have to look at the big picture.


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Re: The Cause of Global Warming

PostBy: Ed.A On: Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:34 pm

stockingfull wrote:Which came first, the elevated CO2 or the temp increase? :roll:

What's the reason for the astronomically high CO2 levels, never before seen on the planet, at this time? The correlation between that and the unprecedented (in the history of the planet) mining of carbon-based fuels is ... pure coincidence???


What? the fact that the temps are cooler? I know, Global Warming is not what it was supposed to mean, slip of the Proverbial Tongue.

Change! Yeah...yeah, thats the ticket....climate change.Image
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Re: The Cause of Global Warming

PostBy: Paulie On: Thu Mar 19, 2009 9:39 pm

stockingfull wrote:Which came first, the elevated CO2 or the temp increase? :roll:

What's the reason for the astronomically high CO2 levels, never before seen on the planet, at this time? The correlation between that and the unprecedented (in the history of the planet) mining of carbon-based fuels is ... pure coincidence???

If you follow the science, the earth has had many eons where CO2 is way higher than it is now. Put aside the hype, and look
at the science. What is the largest source of CO2 on the planet? The oceans. Al Gores movie failed to follow the science all
the way. They assumed that CO2 levels were a cause of the increasing temps. Problem is the temps grew colder during
the industrial age, when if the CO2 theory was true, temps should have risen. Then grew warmer from about 1970 till now. Now, it looks as though we are heading into another cooling
spell. There are several other indicators that show the earth is not warming because of CO2, and that the cooling/warming
cycles that can be read for the past couple of thousand years are normal. The biggest influence is solar activity. Temp trends
both warming and cooling for the past 2000 years directly coincide with solar activity. The truth will
set you free, or get you dead on the side of a back road in the boonies! Trust No One! :roll: Not to say pollution is not bad,
but CO2 is NOT the evil green house gas it is being labeled as by some.
To be fair, you can see how people would take the bait. Warming planet, we are doomed, crap! The irony is the money
being spent on the CO2 question, both public and private. Amazing $$$. Well, when the furor dies down, hopefully all
that money found other useful information along the way, or it could go down as the largest boondoggle in the history of
man. Maybe not, the current bail out thing may take the prize!
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Re: The Cause of Global Warming

PostBy: rockwood On: Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:02 pm

What's the reason for the astronomically high CO2 levels, never before seen on the planet, at this time?

C02 levels being higher now than ever before is still theory. It is not proven fact.
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Re: The Cause of Global Warming

PostBy: Paulie On: Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:57 pm

The proof is in the ice core samples. CO2 has been way way higher than it is now. They have been lower too. As we warm,
you get more, as we cool, you get less. CO2 is not the cause of warming, but a side effect. Time will tell.
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Re: The Cause of Global Warming

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:02 am

brckwlt wrote:
Ashcat wrote:Does this statement sum it up?:

Believers in global climate crisis possess no insight into its primary cause: the ageless desire on the part of some to dictate to others what they may, and may not, do. Climate concern is merely the latest means attempted to attain this power.


weren't we headed for an ice age 30-40 years ago, by the same wackos who are claiming global warming now


http://denisdutton.com/cooling_world.htm
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Re: The Cause of Global Warming

PostBy: coalkirk On: Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:28 am

Oh I remember that scare too! Please read the Newsweek story in Wood'nCoals link. They wanted to try to melt the polar ice caps and cover glaciers with black soot to start them melting. Just a few decades ago. These are the same people who now want us to believe the arrogant claim that man can have an affect on long term global climate change. Translation...scientists/college professors who need funding to keeeping their labs going so they can avoid a real job and or reality. CO2 levels have been higher in the past, obviously from caveman and thier SUV's.
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Re: The Cause of Global Warming

PostBy: BillMarti On: Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:09 am

Theory=I Can't prove it=I Think it's true=I believe=Religion=I believe=I know it's true=You cant prove I'm wrong=I Know your wrong=democrat

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Re: The Cause of Global Warming

PostBy: rockwood On: Sat May 02, 2009 1:28 pm

From Sutherland Institute newsletter
"global warming is not human-caused and that those who contend that it is are ignoring scientific evidence to the contrary"
http://campaign.constantcontact.com/render?v=001PgWqtVqMhRKHELXnaIkqJgPYU02y3WJW8GTiru9WkNrxPnGkxJXoX1ku5PDA_YNp4jEyas1qZeIpRRoSdy_AaYXAmodHFsjS0F94kFo7lws4eEbTknZiqoYubSzVKkcWya3antQA28MOOMq2gCUVglC8siyYMWV-Gmc9OJpq7tOXkzC4Rn4Xvw%3D%3D
We can't sit back and let loose cannons like Hillary Clinton and Al Gore spread this lie any longer and one of the best ways I can think of to combat them is to spread the TRUTH so everyone can understand and be informed.
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Re: The Cause of Global Warming

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Sat May 02, 2009 2:13 pm

rockwood wrote:http://campaign.constantcontact.com/render?v=001PgWqtVqMhRKHELXnaIkqJgPYU02y3WJW8GTiru9WkNrxPnGkxJXoX1ku5PDA_YNp4jEyas1qZeIpRRoSdy_AaYXAmodHFsjS0F94kFo7lws4eEbTknZiqoYubSzVKkcWya3antQA28MOOMq2gCUVglC8siyYMWV-Gmc9OJpq7tOXkzC4Rn4Xvw%3D%3D
"If the U.S. chooses an energy policy that eliminates CO2 emissions from fossil-fueled electricity, with carbon capture and storage, as well as renewable energy replacements, the resulting reduction in global warming over the next 100 years can only be expected to achieve a few hundredths of one degree Celsius - scarcely a measurable number. The cost of carbon legislation is approximately equal to the cost of all U.S. oil imports; yet the benefits are at best highly uncertain, and at the worst, non-existent."
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Re: The Cause of Global Warming

PostBy: VigIIPeaBurner On: Sat May 02, 2009 5:04 pm

I remember the global cooling era too. It was being taught in school when I was there - and yes, I remember the 70's ;) Now, were was I ...? Digging around for info on the '70s Newsweek article, I found this entertaining tidbit :!: Anybody ever see any of this guy's work?

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Re: The Cause of Global Warming

PostBy: Berlin On: Sat May 02, 2009 6:04 pm

stockingfull wrote:Which came first, the elevated CO2 or the temp increase? :roll:

What's the reason for the astronomically high CO2 levels, never before seen on the planet, at this time? The correlation between that and the unprecedented (in the history of the planet) mining of carbon-based fuels is ... pure coincidence???


actually, stockingfull, if you look at those wonderfull graphs that Al likes to use to show a historical trend of correlation with high C02 levels and warmer temps, and you select a time period such as 100 years, anywhere on the graph, rather than looking at several hundred/thousand etc. years, you will see that there is always a time lag between elevated C02 levels and higher global temps. C02 TRAILS increases in temp by as much as 30 - 100 years historically AND C02 will often peak at high levels long after the planet begins to dramatically cool !!! One theory to attempt to explain this FACT is that CO2 is not a very potent influence in global temperiture, but simply that as the earth warms, rainfall increases leading to more C02 released via erosion and higher ocean temperitures reduce the oceans ability to contain higher percentages of dissolved C02 gas.

Albert has the truth in front of him, but either refuses to see it, is an absolute idiot, or, more likely- intends to lie to further his own cruel and evil goals.

Yes, stockingfull, we do have historically high levels of CO2, but, because this gas seems to have little to no influence on global climate, it's doubtfull that we will see any changes outside of accelerated plant growth, and the reduced need for irrigation of crops in arid regions. (C02 increases the efficiency of photosynthesis and reduces the plants requirement for water dramatically because of increased efficiency and less evaporative water loss throught the plant's stomata)
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Re: The Cause of Global Warming

PostBy: Dann757 On: Sat May 02, 2009 8:16 pm

http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index ... l-warming/



"In other words, even if the entire United States reduced its carbon dioxide emissions by 83% below current levels, it would only amount to a reduction of global warming of less than three-thousandths of a ºC per year. A number that is scientifically meaningless."
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