tvb wrote:Your question is a strawman, Jeff.
Besides, your best interest and mine probably are likely very dissimilar.
He's not taking your guns away. They simply are not going to subsidize private ammunition makers anymore. There is no right to subsidized ammunition just like you claim there is no right to healthcare.
Fine. I'll give up the brass, that I already paid for with my tax dollars by the way, if you give up the health care that a large percentage of the population will force me to pay for.
How is my question a strawman?
I'm asking you how will you defend yourself from a hostile government as the writers of the Constitution intended and expected?
The straw man fallacy occurs in the following pattern:
1. Person A has position X.
2. Person B ignores X and instead presents position Y.
Y is a distorted version of X and can be set up in several ways, including:
1. Presenting a misrepresentation of the opponent's position and then refuting it, thus giving the appearance that the opponent's actual position has been refuted.
2. Quoting an opponent's words out of context — i.e. choosing quotations which are intentionally misrepresentative of the opponent's actual intentions (see contextomy and quote mining).
3. Presenting someone who defends a position poorly as the defender, then refuting that person's arguments - thus giving the appearance that every upholder of that position (and thus the position itself) has been defeated.
4. Inventing a fictitious persona with actions or beliefs which are then criticized, implying that the person represents a group of whom the speaker is critical.
5. Oversimplifying an opponent's argument, then attacking this oversimplified version.
3. Person B attacks position Y, concluding that X is false/incorrect/flawed.
This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious, because attacking a distorted version of a position fails to constitute an attack on the actual position.
I though I was being fairly strait forward.
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure. -Thomas Jefferson