Gun Ban List

Subject:The Gun Ban list is out.



Here it is folks, and it is bad news. The framework for legislation is always laid, and the Democrats have the votes to pass anything they want to
impose upon us. They really do not believe you need anything more than a brick to defend your home and family. Look at the list and see how many
you own. Remember, it is registration, then confiscation. It has happened in the UK, in Australia, in Europe, in China, and what they have
found is that for some reason the criminals do not turn in their weapons, but will know that you did. Please send this to everyone you can. It will
come up for a vote, and it might even be a secret vote if Madame Pelosi has her way, and then it will be a done deal. ....thanks to Colonel Rus...Hal.

Right to own a gun Remember, The first step in establishing a dictatorship is to disarm the citizens.

Subject: Gun Law Update by Alan Korwin, Democrats have already leaked a gun-ban list. Forward or send to every gun owner you know...Gun Law Update
by Alan Korwin, Author Gun Laws of America. Jan. 5, 2008. Gun-ban list proposed. Slipping below the radar (or under the short-term memory cap), the
Democrats have already leaked a gun-ban list, even under the Bush administration when they knew full well it had no chance of passage (HR1022, 110th Congress)
It serves as a framework for the new list the Brady's plan to introduce shortly. I have an outline of the Brady's current plans and targets of opportunity, It's horrific.
They're going after the courts, regulatory agencies, firearms dealers and statutes in an all out effort to restrict we the people. They've made little mention of criminals.
Now more than ever, attention to the entire Bill of Rights is critical. Gun bans will impact our freedoms under search and seizure, due process, confiscated
property, states' rights, free speech, right to assemble and more, in addition to the Second Amendment. The Democrats current gun-ban-list proposal (final list will be worse):

Rifles (or copies or duplicates):

M1 Carbine,
Sturm Ruger Mini-14,
AR-15,
Bushmaster XM15,
Armalite M15,
AR-10,
Thompson 1927,
Thompson M1;
AK,
AKM,
AKS,
AK-47,
AK-74,
ARM,
MAK90,
NHM 90,
NHM 91,
SA 85,
SA 93,
VEPR;
Olympic Arms PCR;
AR70,
Calico Liberty ,
Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU,
Fabrique National FN/FAL,
FN/LAR, or FNC,
Hi-Point20Carbine,
HK-91,
HK-93,
HK-94,
HK-PSG-1,
Thompson 1927 Commando,
Kel-Tec Sub Rifle;
Saiga,
SAR-8,
SAR-4800,
SKS with detachable magazine,
SLG 95,
SLR 95 or 96,
Steyr AU,
Tavor,
Uzi,
Galil and Uzi Sporter,
Galil Sporter, or Galil Sniper Rifle ( Galatz ).
Pistols (or copies or duplicates):

Calico M-110,
MAC-10,
MAC-11, or MPA3,
Olympic Arms OA,
TEC-9,
TEC-DC9,
TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10,
Uzi.
Shotguns (or copies or duplicates):

Armscor 30 BG,
SPAS 12 or LAW 12,
Striker 12,
Streetsweeper. Catch-all category (for anything missed or new designs):
A semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and has:

(i) a folding or telescoping stock,
(ii) a threaded barrel,
(iii) a pistol grip (which includes ANYTHING that can serve as a grip,
see below),
(iv) a forward grip; or a barrel shroud.

Any semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10
rounds (except tubular magazine .22 rim fire rifles).

A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine,
and has:

(i) a second pistol grip,
(ii) a threaded barrel,
(iii) a barrel shroud or
(iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip, and
(v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more
than 10 rounds.

A semiautomatic shotgun with:

(i) a folding or telescoping stock,
(ii) a pistol grip (see definition below),
(iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine or a fixed magazine
capacity of more than 5 rounds, and
(iv) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

Frames or receivers for the above are included, along with conversion kits.

Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban guns at will:

Under the proposal, the U.S. Attorney General can add any "semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or
a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General." Note
that Obama's pick for this office (Eric Holder) wrote a brief in the Heller case supporting the position that you have no right to have a working firearm
in your own home.

In making this determination, the bill says, "there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or
any federal law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and a firearm shall not be determined to be particularly suitable
for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event."

In plain English this means that ANY ever obtained by federal officers or the military is not suitable for the public.

The last part is particularly clever, stating that a firearm doesn't have a sporting purpose just because it can be used for sporting purpose -- is
that devious or what? And of course, "sporting purpose" is a rights infringement with no constitutional or historical support whatsoever,
invented by domestic enemies of the right to keep and bear arms to further their cause of disarming the innocent.

Respectfully submitted, Alan Korwin, Author Gun Laws of America
http://www.gunlaws.com/gloa.htm

"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the 2009 version of Jefferson's quote
When the People fear their government, there is tryanny, when the government fears the people, there is liberty."
-When the government fears the people, there will be a gun ban ! TJ - 2009
Thomas Jefferson

So basicly, any shotgun, multiple fire [even bolt fed] rifle, and any pistol with the ability to have a large magazine installed.. not just if it DOES have it installed, if it CAN have it installed.. cute...

Greg L

Guns???? who has guns??? sorry you cant come in I have dirareahh real bad and have to go poo now

It's the same as Clintons assault weapon ban. Too bad for all those folks who spent $2500 on a AR-15...

BADGE... WHO NEEDS A STINKHEN BADGE, we got a Dem congress to tell us what to have. All you need is a piece of nut coal to toss at a home invader. Give your gun to Pussface Piss-losie.

Hey the senser works.

Poconoeagle wrote:Guns???? who has guns???

I am selling all my guns

But your picture says you'll keep your guns (and religion, liberty, and money)?

I'm confused.

File this under: Coulda- Shoulda-Woulda.

$200 per case 5.45x39 for my AK-74, only bought (1case) 1000rds. 500RDS for my Romak (Dragunov SVU clone),
3 months ago or so, had plans to buy at least a few more more, but blew it off, hype it's all hype.....Truth, it's all truth.

Well now it's all gone

You guys need to get smart and scrap all your guns and ammo like I did. Let the government protect you and forget all about this gun ownership and outdated constitution crap. No reason to be self sufficient when the Messiah is here for you.

LsFarm wrote:In making this determination, the bill says, "there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or
any federal law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and a firearm shall not be determined to be particularly suitable
for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event."

What if I don't intend to use it for sporting purposes? What if I promise to use it only for shooting people who submit dumb@$$ legislation?

Is this HR45? Or has this already passed?

A "friend" was looking at getting an AR15 before any ban was passed. He was able to order a new STAG model 1 for $800 yesterday. 3 weeks expected for the order. Now he just hopes no ban is passed between now and then. If your shopping around and that price sounds good PM me for the name of "his" dealer near Hazleton, PA.

So, you saying, typical hunting firearms would be on the list?
ie. Remington 870 12g or .30-.30 Marlin or .22mag bolt action?

Hey, looking to buy a Ruger Sr9 semi automatic hand gun for protection in the house. Anybody have experiance wth them? Worth the $500? Thanks!

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