HR-875 food safety bill.

Re: HR-875 food safety bill.

PostBy: e.alleg On: Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:17 am

"(13) FOOD ESTABLISHMENT-

(A) IN GENERAL- The term 'food establishment' means a slaughterhouse (except those regulated under the Federal Meat Inspection Act or the Poultry Products Inspection Act), factory, warehouse, or facility owned or operated by a person located in any State that processes food or a facility that holds, stores, or transports food or food ingredients."

that means everybody.

Here's a hyper liberal take on it but the points are valid if you can get past the libber crap: http://www.opednews.com/articles/A-sole ... 14-67.html
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Re: HR-875 food safety bill.

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sun Mar 22, 2009 4:21 am

e.alleg wrote:"(13) FOOD ESTABLISHMENT-

(A) IN GENERAL- The term 'food establishment' means a slaughterhouse (except those regulated under the Federal Meat Inspection Act or the Poultry Products Inspection Act), factory, warehouse, or facility owned or operated by a person located in any State that processes food or a facility that holds, stores, or transports food or food ingredients."

that means everybody.

Here's a hyper liberal take on it but the points are valid if you can get past the libber crap: http://www.opednews.com/articles/A-sole ... 14-67.html


Let's add the exclusions that follow?

(13) FOOD ESTABLISHMENT-
  • (A) IN GENERAL- The term ‘food establishment’ means a slaughterhouse (except those regulated under the Federal Meat Inspection Act or the Poultry Products Inspection Act), factory, warehouse, or facility owned or operated by a person located in any State that processes food or a facility that holds, stores, or transports food or food ingredients.
  • (B) EXCLUSIONS- For the purposes of registration, the term ‘food establishment’ does not include a food production facility as defined in paragraph (14), restaurant, other retail food establishment, nonprofit food establishment in which food is prepared for or served directly to the consumer, or fishing vessel (other than a fishing vessel engaged in processing, as that term is defined in section 123.3 of title 21, Code of Federal Regulations).
(14) FOOD PRODUCTION FACILITY- The term ‘food production facility’ means any farm, ranch, orchard, vineyard, aquaculture facility, or confined animal-feeding operation.


I don't know about your house but mine is a non-profit venture. ;) I think it's pretty clear that particular paragraph is aimed at commercial enterprises. Just to add these are just definitions and the context they are used within the bill would be a major factor.
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Re: HR-875 food safety bill.

PostBy: TimV On: Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:44 am

They already have a million food safety laws on the books.
Just make a "new law" and problem solved!! :D .
Humm why not enforce the ones we already have by putting back the inspectors we used have in the years gone by? Then we dont need new laws to be passed by the army of legislators we have that we dont need :(
Just a thought but they probably could hire 10 food inpectors for 1% of the cost of what it cost to pass a bill in Congress with all the add ons ands earmarks tagged to everything that goes on .
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Re: HR-875 food safety bill.

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:58 am

TimV wrote:Humm why not enforce the ones we already have by putting back the inspectors we used have in the years gone by? Then we dont need new laws to be passed by the army of legislators we have that we dont need :(


Because they don't get any air time for that and it makes sense. Whenever we have any type of major issue that gets a lot of attention in the media the legislators rush to enact laws whether they are needed or not with little foresight as to what the real effect is going to be. The primary reason of course is to put another notch in their belt so they can proclaim to their voters "Look what I have done for you". Some of the technology laws enacted over the last decade are some pretty good examples, either ineffective or completely useless but the sponsors certainly got their time on he news.
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Re: HR-875 food safety bill.

PostBy: Dann757 On: Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:13 am

And in the meantime the first lady is tearing up the white house lawn to make a photo op "victory garden".
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Re: HR-875 food safety bill.

PostBy: samhill On: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:26 am

cArNaGe, thanks for that vidio clip. I missed seeing that on my local news, gives BHO another thing to fix. Talk about a full plate every time he turns around there`s another problem.
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Re: HR-875 food safety bill.

PostBy: e.alleg On: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:57 pm

Richard S. wrote:
e.alleg wrote:"(13) FOOD ESTABLISHMENT-

(A) IN GENERAL- The term 'food establishment' means a slaughterhouse (except those regulated under the Federal Meat Inspection Act or the Poultry Products Inspection Act), factory, warehouse, or facility owned or operated by a person located in any State that processes food or a facility that holds, stores, or transports food or food ingredients."

that means everybody.

Here's a hyper liberal take on it but the points are valid if you can get past the libber crap: http://www.opednews.com/articles/A-sole ... 14-67.html


Let's add the exclusions that follow?

(13) FOOD ESTABLISHMENT-
  • (A) IN GENERAL- The term ‘food establishment’ means a slaughterhouse (except those regulated under the Federal Meat Inspection Act or the Poultry Products Inspection Act), factory, warehouse, or facility owned or operated by a person located in any State that processes food or a facility that holds, stores, or transports food or food ingredients.
  • (B) EXCLUSIONS- For the purposes of registration, the term ‘food establishment’ does not include a food production facility as defined in paragraph (14), restaurant, other retail food establishment, nonprofit food establishment in which food is prepared for or served directly to the consumer, or fishing vessel (other than a fishing vessel engaged in processing, as that term is defined in section 123.3 of title 21, Code of Federal Regulations).
(14) FOOD PRODUCTION FACILITY- The term ‘food production facility’ means any farm, ranch, orchard, vineyard, aquaculture facility, or confined animal-feeding operation.


I don't know about your house but mine is a non-profit venture. ;) I think it's pretty clear that particular paragraph is aimed at commercial enterprises. Just to add these are just definitions and the context they are used within the bill would be a major factor.


A "nonprofit" is a specific entity with a board of directors, etc.. That's the problem, the home gardeners while not expressly targeted are not excluded. Why isn't there a paragraph specifically excluding home gardeners and homesteaders? That's what worries me, it's a major infringement on our rights.
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Re: HR-875 food safety bill.

PostBy: tvb On: Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:14 pm

That's the problem, the home gardeners while not expressly targeted are not excluded. Why isn't there a paragraph specifically excluding home gardeners and homesteaders? That's what worries me, it's a major infringement on our rights.


Have you considered writing your representatives in Washington to suggest the same?
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