Obama secretly ends program that let pilots carry guns

Obama secretly ends program that let pilots carry guns

PostBy: av8r On: Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:11 pm

After the September 11 attacks, commercial airline pilots were allowed to carry guns if they completed a federal-safety program. No longer would unarmed pilots be defenseless as remorseless hijackers seized control of aircraft and rammed them into buildings.

Now President Obama is quietly ending the federal firearms program, risking public safety on airlines in the name of an anti-gun ideology.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/200 ... am-that-l/
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Re: Obama secretly ends program that let pilots carry guns

PostBy: Black_And_Blue On: Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:27 pm

Better late than never.....

Page 4 Another Obama attack on the 2A
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Re: Obama secretly ends program that let pilots carry guns

PostBy: rberq On: Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:01 pm

Be aware that this is an editorial, not an objective news piece. (Well, I suppose Fox would consider it objective.) It has some odd statements in it: for example, that pilots who have been approved to carry guns say that the approval process has come to a standstill. So, if they are already approved, why would they be waiting on an approval process?
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Re: Obama secretly ends program that let pilots carry guns

PostBy: av8r On: Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:09 pm

rberq wrote:Be aware that this is an editorial, not an objective news piece. (Well, I suppose Fox would consider it objective.) It has some odd statements in it: for example, that pilots who have been approved to carry guns say that the approval process has come to a standstill. So, if they are already approved, why would they be waiting on an approval process?


Perhaps it took them a very long time to get approved? Maybe a co-worker's app is stalled? Dunno
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Re: Obama secretly ends program that let pilots carry guns

PostBy: Duengeon master On: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:43 am

Well I guess it's now more dangerous to fly on an American Airline today now that Al Quida know the pilots are sitting ducks. :rambo2: Time to fly on El-Al airlines, they don't take any crap from anybody. Gee when are the people going to wake up to this fool we have running this country and do something.
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Re: Obama secretly ends program that let pilots carry guns

PostBy: Paulie On: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:58 am

Well, it is not a secret now! :o
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Re: Obama secretly ends program that let pilots carry guns

PostBy: beemerboy On: Fri Mar 27, 2009 12:26 pm


http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/is_it_true_that_obama_is_dropping.html
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.


Q:Is it true that Obama is dropping the federal safety program that allowed pilots to carry guns?

A:No, the program is not being ended, according to the Transportation Security Administration, the Department of Homeland Security and the largest airline pilots union. In fact, TSA says the program is being expanded. The claim comes from a Washington Times editorial that has been removed from the paper's Web site.


But the TSA says the program isn't being shut down at all. A major union for airline pilots also has said the claim "couldn't be further from the truth."

TSA spokeswoman Lauren Gaches told FactCheck.org that the TSA "continues to actively recruit, train and deploy new Federal Flight Deck Officers, and TSA recently opened a new recurrent training facility in Atlantic City." Gaches adds that another training facility "is set to open shortly in Texas and others are planned for the future."


FOX News also has reported that the Air Lines Pilot Association International, which represents more than 50,000 pilots in the U.S. and Canada, issued a statement saying that the editorial "couldn't be further from the truth."

FOX News, March 18: "ALPA representatives met with TSA executives this afternoon and were told in no uncertain terms that TSA embraces the FFDO program, that there are no plans to reduce or restrict its growth, and that in fact the agency fully intends to grow and expand the program," the statement read. "Government representatives acknowledged that the program needs additional funding to achieve these goals, and that they are actively seeking same."


Hay, if you can't trust Fox News - who can you trust?
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Re: Obama secretly ends program that let pilots carry guns

PostBy: tvb On: Fri Mar 27, 2009 1:20 pm

never mind
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Re: Obama secretly ends program that let pilots carry guns

PostBy: rberq On: Fri Mar 27, 2009 6:01 pm

rberq wrote:Be aware that this is an editorial, not an objective news piece.

I hate to say "I told yo...." No, I'm Happy to say "I told you so". There's so much garbage "news" like this, especially on the web, that you can believe only a tiny fraction of what you read.

And speaking of news, did you know that if you mail 10,000 beer can opener tabs to Alcoa, they will donate a thousand dollars to children's cancer research? Or is it to the Afghan Orphanage Society? Or the Pakistani Osama Society? And all those thousands that Osama got from Alcoa, he sent right to Obama during the campaign, and Obama sent it all to the Down-With-the-NRA Society to TAKE AWAY OUR GUNS! Pass it on.

Sincerely,
Ye Olde Cynic
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Re: Obama secretly ends program that let pilots carry guns

PostBy: tvb On: Fri Mar 27, 2009 6:21 pm

And don't forget that Obama is going to tax everyone 90% and give it all to illegal immigrants.
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Re: Obama secretly ends program that let pilots carry guns

PostBy: Black_And_Blue On: Fri Mar 27, 2009 6:35 pm

Barack Obama , William Ayers, the Annenbergs, and ACORN.

Anyone who doesn't believe the media can be manipulated give me a call, I have a bridge for sale.
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