We the People

Re: We the People

PostBy: Ashcat On: Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:56 pm

Devil505 wrote:

Point out a few LINKS where you voice similar concerns about the direction our government was taking prior to 12:01pm on 21/21/2009, otherwise you have no credibility to claim you mean it when you say that Republicans ......." most are liars and weasels " ....I simply don't believe you, nor should anyone reading your posts!


Don't mean to intrude on a good catfight when I witness one, BUT...
I searched BillMarti's posts and these are the results:

He posted a few times on only ONE General & Off Topics thread prior to 1/21/09--all of his other posts were either on other forums or after 1/21/09. In that thread, he said the following:
I'm not defending Bush he is party to it as the democrats are this is most definitely a joint effort and misrepresenting the people.

Can Obama pull it off
Just for the record. Back in lurk mode now.
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Re: We the People

PostBy: BillMarti On: Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:23 pm

Ashcat,

Thank you and I also said I'm new to coal and this is my first season which is why there is nothing before 1/16/2008.
I read all the coal posts ask a few questions purchased an EFM520 in spring of 2008 installed November of 2008.And most questions I had where ask on EFM site. This was the first site I found on coal burning then I was referred tom the EFM site. So now the hall monitor knows why In which I make no excuse to him.But then again he can't infringe on my free speech.

Again thank you Ashcat


Bill S.
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Re: We the People

PostBy: stockingfull On: Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:37 pm

Dev, don't waste your time arguing with people who come right out and tell you they won't change their minds.

Forums are for discussion, which presumes that positions are stated and backed up, and that those facts are, in turn, addressed.

That requires some flexibility of intellect, which Bill has demonstrated, both in the God thread and here, that he neither has nor is interested in acquiring.
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Re: We the People

PostBy: Devil505 On: Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:56 pm

stockingfull wrote:Dev, don't waste your time arguing with people who come right out and tell you they won't change their minds.


I guess your right Jon.....& this news will come as a devastating disappointment to the the RNC & their bidders here:





Horrible News For Anti-Obamaniacs. Economy Is Improving!

PostBy: Devil505 On: Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:46 pm
U.S. existing home sales rose in February
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By Lucia Mutikani Lucia Mutikani – Mon Mar 23, 1:03 pm ET


WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Sales of previously owned U.S. homes rose at their fastest pace in nearly six years in February, data showed on Monday, offering some hope to an economy battling a 15-month recession.
The National Association of Realtors (NAR) said sales rebounded 5.1 percent in February to a 4.72 million-unit annual rate, notching their largest gain since July 2003, but about 45 percent of these were foreclosure or short-sale transactions.
This was above market expectations for a drop to a 4.45 million-unit pace after January's 4.49 million rate. Compared to the same period last year, February sales were down 4.6 percent, the NAR said.
U.S. stocks, already rallying after the U.S. government released details of a plan to clean out toxic assets from banks' balance sheets, extended gains on the housing data.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090323/bs_
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.
... _housing_6






Stocks surge on bank plan, rise in home sales
By TIM PARADIS – 44 minutes ago
NEW YORK (AP) — Wall Street is getting the good news it wants on the economy's biggest problems: banks and housing. Investors reignited a two-week rally Monday, cheering the government's plan to help banks remove bad assets from their books as well as a report showing a surprising increase in home sales. Major stock indicators jumped as much as 6 percent, including the Dow Jones industrial average, which soared more than 400 points.
The Treasury Department's bad asset cleanup program would tap money from the government's $700 billion financial rescue fund and involve help from the Federal Reserve, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. and the participation of private investors.
The government's announcement was what the market had waited weeks to hear. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner had announced an outline of the program last month but provided few details then about how it would work, leading to a poor reception in the markets.
Meanwhile, the housing report released Monday was overwhelmingly positive for the markets even though it showed a decline in home prices in February. Investors are embracing any sign that a glut in homes for sale may be easing.
The market had received another dose of housing good news last week on the troubled industry as housing starts for February came in much better than expected.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/art ... AD973UIJ82
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Re: We the People

PostBy: Devil505 On: Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:09 pm

Ashcat wrote:He posted a few times on only ONE General & Off Topics thread prior to 1/21/09--all of his other posts were either on other forums or after 1/21/09. In that thread, he said the following:
I'm not defending Bush he is party to it as the democrats are this is most definitely a joint effort and misrepresenting the people.


Thanks Ashcat ,.....but that just further makes my point. Bill has been a member here since 1/16/2008 & in over a year has not found anything wrong with his government that would concern him enough to post about it......UNTIL after President Obama took office. Where was his righteous indignation before then? We must assume therefore, that he agreed with ALL the policies of the Bush administration.
Even his non-defense of Bush ...."I'm not defending Bush"...is really just a guise to make a further partisan attacks on the Democrats
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Re: We the People

PostBy: BillMarti On: Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:20 pm

Stockingful,

I accept that you are closed minded also by your own statement That I won't accept your biased view. How's that for a oxymoron.The problem is I have an education and have learned how and why the Constitution will and should stop all the people that need somebody else to run their lives. It gives me the freedoms your party so strongly wants to limit to hear the truth of liberty. If you don't like what somebody says or does you'll make another frivolous law which will only be enforced when convenient to serve your purpose to limit those who disagree with you as in your prior post which I'm glad didn't happen yet. As I said to in a prior post take a poll on your political biased view and you'll get an education too because this is the topic to do it in. Have at it your biased opinion of me means nothing you may disagree but you have yet to prove me wrong. Bring it on boys
I will not have my GOD given rights limited by anybody. "Give me liberty or give me death" either way I win I know where I'm going read my signature and your opinion has absolutely no affect on either outcome.

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Re: We the People

PostBy: BillMarti On: Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:22 pm

Devil,

why not do what I ask poll your biased opinion I dare ya.

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Re: We the People

PostBy: BillMarti On: Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:38 pm

Devil,
Who are you to limit my freedom of speech??????????????????????????????

Are you the moderator I know your not I think if you keep it up he will spank you again?????????????????

So please stop trying to intimidate me and where do you and your cronies get off telling people they can or can't comment on any post because they don't follow your silly rules or your religion because you make it up as you go along. Grow up and stop acting as a child"When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things". Start acting as an adult and stop judging people by your faulty ways.



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Re: We the People

PostBy: stockingfull On: Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:48 pm

BillMarti wrote:Stockingful,

I accept that you are closed minded also by your own statement That I won't accept your biased view. How's that for a oxymoron.The problem is I have an education and have learned how and why the Constitution will and should stop all the people that need somebody else to run their lives. It gives me the freedoms your party so strongly wants to limit to hear the truth of liberty. If you don't like what somebody says or does you'll make another frivolous law which will only be enforced when convenient to serve your purpose to limit those who disagree with you as in your prior post which I'm glad didn't happen yet. As I said to in a prior post take a poll on your political biased view and you'll get an education too because this is the topic to do it in. Have at it your biased opinion of me means nothing you may disagree but you have yet to prove me wrong. Bring it on boys
I will not have my GOD given rights limited by anybody. "Give me liberty or give me death" either way I win I know where I'm going read my signature and your opinion has absolutely no affect on either outcome.

Bill S.

:blah: Bill, you got nuthin'. Absolutely nuthin'.

Try answering the Emancipation Proclamation series you conveniently skipped above, just one of so many places here where your lack of knowledge has been exposed....

Biggest trouble, as I see it, is that your wife is duty-bound always to let you have the last word in arguments. Maybe that's why you're so lame here; you've probably never had to win an argument on the merits in your entire life. It always comes down to your "beliefs." Well, Bill, you're entitled to them, but that doesn't mean they'll persuade anybody else.
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Re: We the People

PostBy: Devil505 On: Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:51 pm

BillMarti wrote:Devil,
Who are you to limit my freedom of speech??????????????????????????????


I have never asked you to stop posting Bill, only to admit or recognize where your words are coming from....The RNC.

BillMarti wrote:Are you the moderator I know your not I think if you keep it up he will spank you again?????????????????

No I am not a Mod & I'm always aware of the unpopularity of most of my political positions here, but I trust the Mayor when he says he wants all sides heard here. (personally I think this place would be pretty boring if it just was allowed to turn into a right wing "Circle Jerk" & , it would be out of step with the moderation political forces that swept the country last November.
I'm sure your greatest desire would be to have my voice stifled, which is what you accuse ME of trying to do to you!

BillMarti wrote:So please stop trying to intimidate me

I think this statement of yours..."I think if you keep it up he will spank you again?"....is the only bald-faced intimidation attempt going on here. (sounds to me like a direct appeal to shut me up)
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Re: We the People

PostBy: BillMarti On: Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:06 pm

Stockingful,

Like I said childish as your last post



Devil,

Here's 2 spankings or did you forget.

Russia based bombers in cuba- Locked or ended because of your childishness

Did God create man - Locked or ended because of you childishness


You just don't know how to let things go

Bill S.
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Re: We the People

PostBy: spc On: Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:15 pm

This post just about sums it up. :nono:

Russia to Base Bombers in Cuba?
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Re: We the People

PostBy: BillMarti On: Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:20 pm

spc,

I agree I let myself be drawn in to foolishness and nonsense I stand corrected.


Bill S
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