Horrible News For Anti-Obamaniacs. Economy Is Improving!

Re: Horrible News For Anti-Obamaniacs. Economy Is Improving!

PostBy: BillMarti On: Tue Mar 24, 2009 5:08 pm

Devil,

OK explain economics to me where's the money coming from if we started with a deficit and increased the deficit 3x do the math -0 - -0= -0 :idea: :shock: Do your happy dance now.


Bill S.
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Re: Horrible News For Anti-Obamaniacs. Economy Is Improving!

PostBy: BillMarti On: Tue Mar 24, 2009 5:17 pm

Devil,
Here's more proof it don't work another thing you guys use to condone irresponsibility of spend,spend it didn't work for Bush so why doesn't it work for the messiah.

http://www.newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucl ... elNum=5409

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Re: Horrible News For Anti-Obamaniacs. Economy Is Improving!

PostBy: Devil505 On: Tue Mar 24, 2009 5:19 pm

BillMarti wrote:How do you get a pole that says 53% of other people say they think we're heading for a depression as my opinion


I was referring to your general opinion that the sky is falling & the voters are not always right. (they elected GW Bush once...didn;'t they?) ;)

BillMarti wrote:does it bother that nobody except for 2 other people hear agree with your opinion.


Nope....It never has. (being RIGHT is more important than being popular)
However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results.
Winston Churchill


BillMarti wrote:your a minority opinion is not held by thinking people.

Are you & Jeff the "Thinking People" I should be sad at not supporting my position?

BillMarti wrote:I told you before don't bring a knife to a gun fight.

This is not a knife or a gun battle. It's a battle of wits for which you are totally unarmed! ;)
Let me see if I understand: A "Thinking Person" is someone who agrees with you & a Non-"Thinking Person" is someone who disagrees with you? (No wonder you found no fault with the last administration)


I'll ask you the same question I asked Jeff earlier:
(BTW......Can you again remind us all exactly where you & Bill studied for & received you doctorates in advanced global economics? (.....I've admitted to a poor short term memory & just forget which post contained that important info which obviously would add much needed weight to your economic predictions) :gee: :nana:

I realize it's the height of ignorance for me to trust their (President Obama & a vast team of economists) predictions rather than a couple of unknown members of an Anthracite Coal help forum such as you & Bill.........Sometimes I'm just stubborn I guess
! :oops:
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Re: Horrible News For Anti-Obamaniacs. Economy Is Improving!

PostBy: BillMarti On: Tue Mar 24, 2009 5:28 pm

Devil,

I can see your in a corner again by your reply. There's a lot of you guys running the government that have doctorates and the only thing they do well is lie,lie and lie some more so if that is what a doctorate carries with it I'm glad they have them.

Something to be proud of ain't it. BO sure can pick intelligent honest people can't he.

And by the way you still refuse to answer the question where's the magic money coming from and whose paying it back.So when you answer that intelligently I'll answer yours

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Re: Horrible News For Anti-Obamaniacs. Economy Is Improving!

PostBy: tvb On: Tue Mar 24, 2009 5:44 pm

BillMarti wrote:does it bother that nobody except for 2 other people hear agree with your opinion.


That's quite an assumption seeing as only a few participate in these discussions.
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Re: Horrible News For Anti-Obamaniacs. Economy Is Improving!

PostBy: Devil505 On: Tue Mar 24, 2009 5:49 pm

BillMarti wrote:There's a lot of you guys running the government that have doctorates and the only thing they do well is lie,lie and lie some more so if that is what a doctorate carries with it I'm glad they have them.

Something to be proud of ain't it. BO sure can pick intelligent honest people can't he.



BillMarti wrote:I have always shown respect for you but again you have shown nothing but disrespect and contempt to me. .




BillMarti wrote:Grow up and stop acting as a child"When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things". Start acting as an adult and stop judging people by your faulty ways.


Yeah....You sure always show respect Bill! :down: :no1: :devil:

Listen,.......When I need expertize in hardware........I'll listen to what you have to say....Economics....no thanks ;) (now run along & get me a pound of ten penny nails will you please!) :lol:
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Re: Horrible News For Anti-Obamaniacs. Economy Is Improving!

PostBy: jpete On: Tue Mar 24, 2009 5:59 pm

Devil505 wrote:
I'll ask you the same question I asked Jeff earlier:
(BTW......Can you again remind us all exactly where you & Bill studied for & received you doctorates in advanced global economics? (.....I've admitted to a poor short term memory & just forget which post contained that important info which obviously would add much needed weight to your economic predictions) :gee: :nana:

I realize it's the height of ignorance for me to trust their (President Obama & a vast team of economists) predictions rather than a couple of unknown members of an Anthracite Coal help forum such as you & Bill.........Sometimes I'm just stubborn I guess
! :oops:


I graduated from the School of Hard Knocks and got my Phd from the College of Getting the $h!t Kicked Out of Me. And I don't need to go to an Ivy League school to understand the difference between Keynesian and Austrian economics. And now I've answered your question, now you can answer mine.

Do you know the difference between the two? There is no sense having this debate until we can define what it is we are debating.
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Re: Horrible News For Anti-Obamaniacs. Economy Is Improving!

PostBy: BillMarti On: Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:01 pm

Devil, :bang:

Are you playing with a full deck or are you just plain arrogant. The things you accuse me of seem to be a reflection of your attitude. You win I'll not be pulled in to you warped world again. I done with this foolishness that you seem to live for. When you can't win you start a personal attack I will no longer feed your ego.



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Re: Horrible News For Anti-Obamaniacs. Economy Is Improving!

PostBy: Devil505 On: Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:08 pm

jpete wrote:
Devil505 wrote:
I'll ask you the same question I asked Jeff earlier:
(BTW......Can you again remind us all exactly where you & Bill studied for & received you doctorates in advanced global economics? (.....I've admitted to a poor short term memory & just forget which post contained that important info which obviously would add much needed weight to your economic predictions) :gee: :nana:

I realize it's the height of ignorance for me to trust their (President Obama & a vast team of economists) predictions rather than a couple of unknown members of an Anthracite Coal help forum such as you & Bill.........Sometimes I'm just stubborn I guess
! :oops:


I graduated from the School of Hard Knocks and got my Phd from the College of Getting the $h!t Kicked Out of Me. And I don't need to go to an Ivy League school to understand the difference between Keynesian and Austrian economics. And now I've answered your question, now you can answer mine.

Do you know the difference between the two? There is no sense having this debate until we can define what it is we are debating.


I have already admitted something which you refuse to admit: Neither one of us is an economist qualified to pass judgment on the economic plans of this nation. I admit that & you hold yourself out as having expertise in this field.

You'll excuse me but I would rather trust someone with credentials like this:


Sec of the Treasury Geithner

Geithner was born in Brooklyn, New York.[2] He spent most of his childhood living outside the United States, including present-day Zimbabwe, India and Thailand, where he completed high school at International School Bangkok.[3] He then attended Dartmouth College, graduating with an B.A. in government and Asian studies in 1983.[4] He earned an M.A. in international economics and East Asian studies from Johns Hopkins University's School of Advanced International Studies in 1985.[4][5] He has studied Chinese[4] and Japanese.[6]
Geithner's paternal grandfather, Paul Herman Geithner (1902–1972), emigrated with his parents from the German town of Zeulenroda to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania in 1908.[7] His father, Peter F. Geithner, is the director of the Asia program at the Ford Foundation in New York. During the early 1980s, Peter Geithner oversaw the Ford Foundation's microfinance programs in Indonesia being developed by Ann Dunham-Soetoro, President Barack Obama's mother, and they met in person at least once.[8] Timothy Geithner's mother, Deborah Moore Geithner, is a pianist and piano teacher in Larchmont, New York where his parents currently reside. Geithner's maternal grandfather, Charles F. Moore, was an adviser to President Dwight D. Eisenhower and served as a vice president of Ford Motor Company.[9]
[edit] Early career
After completing his studies, Geithner worked for Kissinger and Associates in Washington, D.C., for three years and then joined the International Affairs division of the U.S. Treasury Department in 1988. He went on to serve as an attache at the US Embassy in Tokyo. He was deputy assistant secretary for international monetary and financial policy (1995–1996), senior deputy assistant secretary for international affairs (1996-1997), assistant secretary for international affairs (1997–1998).[5]
He was Under Secretary of the Treasury for International Affairs (1998–2001) under Treasury Secretaries Robert Rubin and Lawrence Summers.[5] Summers was his mentor,[10][11] but other sources call him a Rubin protégé.[11][12][13]


Treasury Secretary designee Geithner meets Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus on November 25, 2008
In 2002 he left the Treasury to join the Council on Foreign Relations as a Senior Fellow in the International Economics department.[14] He was director of the Policy Development and Review Department (2001-2003) at the International Monetary Fund.[5]
In October 2003, he was named president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.[15] His salary in 2007 was $398,200.[16] Once at the New York Fed, he became Vice Chairman of the Federal Open Market Committee component. In 2006, he also became a member of the Washington-based financial advisory body, the Group of Thirty.[17]
In March 2008, he arranged the rescue and sale of Bear Stearns;[10][18] in the same year, he played a pivotal role in both the decision to bail out AIG as well as the government decision not to save Lehman Brothers from bankruptcy.[citation needed] As a Treasury official, he helped manage multiple international crises of the 1990s[12] in Brazil, Mexico, Indonesia, South Korea and Thailand.[13]
Geithner believes, along with Henry Paulson, that the United States Department of the Treasury needs new authority to experiment with responses to the financial crisis of 2008.[10] Paulson has described Geithner as "[a] very unusually talented young man...[who] understands government and understands markets."[18]
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Re: Horrible News For Anti-Obamaniacs. Economy Is Improving!

PostBy: Devil505 On: Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:09 pm

BillMarti wrote:Devil, :bang:

Are you playing with a full deck


BillMarti wrote:You win I'll not be pulled in to you warped world again.




BillMarti wrote:I have always shown respect for you but again you have shown nothing but disrespect and contempt to me. .


Always the liar eh Bill.......You gonna get me that bag of nails or not? 8-)
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Re: Horrible News For Anti-Obamaniacs. Economy Is Improving!

PostBy: BillMarti On: Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:13 pm

WE THE PEOPLE RING ANY BELLS not you the government and not them that have doctorates because you boy is a liar too.

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Re: Horrible News For Anti-Obamaniacs. Economy Is Improving!

PostBy: BillMarti On: Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:25 pm

Devil,
As I said before Your the only one that plays by your rules which is why you'll never learn what true respect is. You know how to dish it out but you can't take criticism. When you want to have an intelligent respectful conversation without stamping your feet let me know until then your in the same boat with one of your friends in which those comments fall on deaf ears. It's not been nice knowing you. BYE BYE.

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Re: Horrible News For Anti-Obamaniacs. Economy Is Improving!

PostBy: Jeddbird On: Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:31 pm

tvb wrote:
BillMarti wrote:does it bother that nobody except for 2 other people hear agree with your opinion.


That's quite an assumption seeing as only a few participate in these discussions.



I agree with you TVB. I usually stick with coal topics but read some of these threads & would rather put my faith in the new president too.
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Re: Horrible News For Anti-Obamaniacs. Economy Is Improving!

PostBy: tvb On: Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:33 pm

Oh dear. Bill is again taking his ball and going home. :bag:

It's starting to become a habit with him when he can't compete with the other side of the debate.
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Re: Horrible News For Anti-Obamaniacs. Economy Is Improving!

PostBy: jpete On: Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:36 pm

Devil505 wrote:I have already admitted something which you refuse to admit: Neither one of us is an economist qualified to pass judgment on the economic plans of this nation. I admit that & you hold yourself out as having expertise in this field.

You'll excuse me but I would rather trust someone with credentials like this:


Hey Devil, you know what you call a person who graduates LAST in medical school?


DOCTOR :shock:

Don't try to impress me with Geithner credentials. I know where he came from. You realize you are putting your faith in a man who worked alongside Henry Paulson. The same man who used to work at Goldman Sachs. One of those big evil companies you hate so much.

If you can slay Dick Cheney based on his former employment with Halliburton, why not extend the same favor to Paulson and Geithner?

You are also putting your faith in a guy who expects us to believe that as head of the International Money Fund(another illegal institution) he used Turbo Tax to do his taxes and then didn't pay them?

Also, he was brought up by Henry Kissinger. The architect of the Vietnam War.

This guy associates with the scum of the Earth and you want to trust the future of the country to him? You may be deaf. dumb, and blind, but I'm not. I wouldn't trust the guy as far as I could throw him.

But back to the issue. Do you, or do you not, know the difference between Austrian and Keynesian economics? You did a pretty good job of cutting and pasting from Wkipedia on Geithner, you could probably start there to find the answers you lack.
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