What's a good way to kill weed's?

Re: What's a good way to kill weed's?

PostBy: e.alleg On: Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:56 pm

2,4 D and Atrazine will kill the vegetation, in my opinion you might as well pour gasoline on it as it's less harmful to the environment.
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Re: What's a good way to kill weed's?

PostBy: 009to090 On: Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:10 pm

Jeez, What was Agent Orange made of? Ohhhh yeah.... heres the stuff.... :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick:

Agent Orange is the code name for a powerful herbicide and defoliant used by the U.S. military in its Herbicidal Warfare program during the Vietnam War. During the Vietnam War, an estimated 21,136,000 gal. (80 000 m³) of Agent Orange was sprayed across South Vietnam.[1] 4.8 million Vietnamese people were exposed to Agent Orange, resulting in 400,000 deaths and disabilities, and 500,000 children born with birth defects[2]

From 1961 to 1971, Agent Orange was by far the most widely used of the so-called "Rainbow Herbicides" employed in the Herbicidal Warfare program. During the production of Agent Orange (as well as Agents Purple, Pink, and Green) dioxins were produced as a contaminant, which have caused health problems for those exposed during the Vietnam War. Agents Blue and White were part of the same program but did not contain dioxins.

Studies of populations exposed to dioxin, though not necessarily Agent Orange, indicate increased risk of various types of cancer and genetic defects; the effect of long-term low-level exposure has not been established.

Since the 1980s, several lawsuits have been filed against the companies which produced Agent Orange, among them; Dow Chemical, Monsanto, and Diamond Shamrock (which produced 5%[3]). U.S. veterans obtained a $180 million settlement in 1984, with most affected veterans receiving a one-time lump sum payment of $1,200. According to the Department of Veterans Affairs, shortly after the Vietnam War veterans reported various health complications which can be traced to exposure to the chemical Agent Orange. In 1991, the US Congress enacted the Agent Orange Act giving the Department of Veterans Affairs the authority to declare certain conditions 'presumptive' to exposure to Agent Orange/Dioxin enabling these veterans who served in Vietnam eligible to receive treatment and compensation for these conditions. [4] The same law required the National Academy of Sciences to periodically review the science on dioxin and herbicides used in Vietnam to inform the Secretary of Veterans Affairs about the strength of the scientific evidence showing association between exposure to Agent Orange/Dioxin and certain conditions.[5] Through this process, the list of 'presumptive' conditions has grown since 1991 and currently the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs has listed prostate cancer, respiratory cancers, multiple myeloma, type II diabetes, Hodgkin’s disease, non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, soft tissue sarcoma, chloracne, porphyria cutanea tarda, peripheral neuropathy, chronic lymphocytic leukemia, and spina bifida in children of veterans exposed to Agent Orange as conditions associated with exposure to the herbicide.

American veterans of the Vietnam war were seeking recognition of Agent Orange syndrome, compensation and treatment for diseases that they and their children suffered from; many exposed to Agent Orange have not been able to receive promised medical care through the Veterans Administration medical system, and only in exceptional cases have their affected children received health care assistance from the government.

Vietnam veterans and their families who brought the original Agent Orange lawsuit 25 years ago alleged that the government "is just waiting for us all to die"[citation needed]. They alleged that most of those still alive would succumb to the effects of toxic exposure before the age of 65.

In Australia, Canada and New Zealand, veterans obtained compensation in settlements that same year. In 1999, South Korean veterans filed a lawsuit in the Korean courts. In January 2006, the Korean Appeal Court ordered Monsanto and Dow to pay US$62 million in compensation. However, no Vietnamese have received compensation, and on March 10, 2005, Judge Jack B. Weinstein of the United States District Court for the Eastern District of New York dismissed the lawsuit filed by the Vietnamese victims of Agent Orange against the chemical companies which produced the defoliants and herbicides. The case was appealed and heard by the Second Circuit Court of Appeals on June 18, 2007. The Court of Appeals upheld the dismissal of the case stating that the herbicides used during the war were not intended to be used to poison humans and therefore did not violate international law.[6] The lawyers for the Vietnamese have petitioned the US Supreme Court to consider the case.
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Re: What's a good way to kill weed's?

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Tue Mar 24, 2009 2:02 am

The flame weeder works!
Just need to geet'em young!

http://www.flameengineering.com/Heavy_Duty_Vapor_Kits.html
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.

500,000 btu is what you need, good for starting bonfires too!
Follow the directions and check out the links!
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Re: What's a good way to kill weed's?

PostBy: samhill On: Tue Mar 24, 2009 8:35 am

I flew gunship cover on a few of the agent orange missions over there, they would spray for maybe a mile or two then turn around & spray coming back & the leaves were already brown & starting to fall from the first run. Real nasty stuff.
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Re: What's a good way to kill weed's?

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Tue Mar 24, 2009 9:13 am

1 gallon of white vinegar, 1 pound of table salt and a tabelspoon of liquid dishwashing detergent will kill them deader than a doornail and is non toxic to pets and humans. One application will last many months. Do not get it on anything you don't want dead and clean the spayer with water if you use one, it will eat the gaskets.
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Re: What's a good way to kill weed's?

PostBy: Steve.N On: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:13 am

I had a very good friend, Dean Moore. When the agent orange stories were first comming to light in the early 70'ies Dean used to tell how it was all BS that he handled thousands of gallons of the stuff loading choppers and practly bathed in it. Four years later Dean was dead of an assortment of cancers.
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Re: What's a good way to kill weed's?

PostBy: 009to090 On: Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:31 am

Steve.N wrote:I had a very good friend, Dean Moore. When the agent orange stories were first comming to light in the early 70'ies Dean used to tell how it was all BS that he handled thousands of gallons of the stuff loading choppers and practly bathed in it. Four years later Dean was dead of an assortment of cancers.


Yep, it is bad stuff. ... thank goodness I wasn't around it when I was in the service. I just spent alot of time getting soaked in hydraulic fliud and JP-4. :fear: :sick: :fear:
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Re: What's a good way to kill weed's?

PostBy: samhill On: Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:49 pm

I loved jp-4, kills poison ivy almost as fast as embalming fluid.
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Re: What's a good way to kill weed's?

PostBy: rockwood On: Tue Mar 24, 2009 2:04 pm

jpen1 wrote:Go toyour local Tractor Suppply and get a chemical called "Pramitol" common name. Prometon is the main ingredient about $30 but it will make many many gallons of spray. If you can find it get "Atrazine" powder and make spray . The only thing that will grow for the next 2 years is corn however in PA you need a chem handlers license to get it.

Yeah, you can buy it locally her in Utah with no license.
Don't use it near trees/shrubs though because it can leach through the ground to their roots and could kill them.
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Re: What's a good way to kill weed's?

PostBy: titleist1 On: Tue Mar 24, 2009 2:42 pm

Best way to kill weeds......


smoke 'em :secret: :shifty: :verycool:
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