Obama bows to Saudi King, WH DEnies it....

Re: Obama bows to Saudi King, WH DEnies it....

PostBy: mikeandgerry On: Fri Apr 10, 2009 3:10 pm

Devil505 wrote:I happen to know that the arab monarch wasn't wearing any underwear...& therefore couldn't very well bow....now could he? :eek2:


Is this one of your famous admissions of error?
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Re: Obama bows to Saudi King, WH DEnies it....

PostBy: mikeandgerry On: Fri Apr 10, 2009 3:15 pm

In the tale of two bows video, Obama gives a head nod to the Queen of England, not a bow. The Saudi monarch gets an at-the-waste bow. I would consider the head nod bow a gesture of courtesy. In Japan, the waist bow would be a gesture of courtesy also because it is usually reciprocal unless you are bowing to royalty.

Obama was nearly prostrate before the Saudi monarch. He is a naive fool.
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Re: Obama bows to Saudi King, WH DEnies it....

PostBy: brckwlt On: Fri Apr 10, 2009 3:36 pm

definitely a bow. I guess now its cool to respect terrorist. I love change
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Re: Obama bows to Saudi King, WH DEnies it....

PostBy: gaw On: Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:35 pm

Res ipsa loquitur
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Re: Obama bows to Saudi King, WH DEnies it....

PostBy: coalkirk On: Fri Apr 10, 2009 5:13 pm

One would assume Obamas handlers would be briefing him on proper protocol for such occaisions. So I'm going to say the error was theirs. It's well established protocol that the POTUS does not bow to royalty. It was obvioulsy a bow. His "peeps" have blown it on a number of well publicized events. I'm not a fan of Obama but this is not his fault. If he doesn't get some close advisers who know their ass from third base though, then it's going to be his fault.
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Re: Obama bows to Saudi King, WH DEnies it....

PostBy: Devil505 On: Fri Apr 10, 2009 5:17 pm

coalkirk wrote:One would assume Obamas handlers would be briefing him on proper protocol for such occaisions. So I'm going to say the error was theirs. It's well established protocol that the POTUS does not bow to royalty. It was obvioulsy a bow. His "peeps" have blown it on a number of well publicized events. I'm not a fan of Obama but this is not his fault. If he doesn't get some close advisers who know their ass from third base though, then it's going to be his fault.


Very well thought out & reasonable post Terry. :up: ( It would be nice if some others here would step back a bit & show some political maturity occasionally)
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Re: Obama bows to Saudi King, WH DEnies it....

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Fri Apr 10, 2009 5:29 pm

I don't see the big deal. Who cares how he greets him? A handshake, slap on the back, kiss on the cheek..... a bow. We have bigger problems than how he greets people.
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Re: Obama bows to Saudi King, WH DEnies it....

PostBy: BillMarti On: Fri Apr 10, 2009 5:59 pm

It's kind of funny every little mistake or inconsistency Bush did was immediately flashed on the liberal media screen over and over and over again for 8 years. Now when BO does anything in question you can hear the silence. And when somebody point out a legitimate problem such as addressed here all HE** breaks lose and Bush is dragged into it. Remember What Bush did is history and every chance the liberals get to allude to it when BO makes a mistake shows just how foolish they are to try to deflect all questioning of BO's actions. One thing is sure here the libs know how to tear somebody down and don't like it one bit when it happens to their "messiah" . They were and are the example of do as I say not as I do. Bush did a lot of wrong and it's over for him but BO is just getting started and has done more damage to the CONSTITUTION than all the presidents together and still hasn't learned from history as a few that defend continually defend his actions. YOU BOW TO YOUR SUPERIORS ONLY THESE PEOPLE ARE THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES AND MURDERS HOW DO YOU JUSTIFY THAT. WE really don't need them and they will sell us oil because their greed and need weapons to use against us and they know if they cut us off there will be grave consequences but then again with BO in power he'll bow down a apologize anyway and make it all better.

Bill S.
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Re: Obama bows to Saudi King, WH DEnies it....

PostBy: CoaLen On: Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:57 pm

coalkirk wrote:One would assume Obamas handlers would be briefing him on proper protocol for such occaisions. So I'm going to say the error was theirs. It's well established protocol that the POTUS does not bow to royalty. It was obvioulsy a bow. His "peeps" have blown it on a number of well publicized events. I'm not a fan of Obama but this is not his fault. If he doesn't get some close advisers who know their ass from third base though, then it's going to be his fault.


President Obama shouldn't get a pass on this. He is no longer the citizen Obama; he's our President. He represents the office of President of the United States and the citizens of the United States of America. It's extremely disappointing that he doesn't have an intuitive understanding of who he is when he's meeting these people.
My president should not bow to any foreign leader! The fact that the White House denied what is obvious shows what they think of our intelligence, while acknowledging that they realize he blew it.
-Len
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PostBy: Ashcat On: Fri Apr 10, 2009 7:36 pm

CoaLen wrote:It's extremely disappointing that he doesn't have an intuitive understanding of who he is when he's meeting these people.

On the contrary, he has a perfectly developed intuitive understanding of who to bow to, which he amply demonstrated. This isn't the fault of his "handlers" because, if it were, his behavior would have been the same with the King of Saudi Arabia as it was with the Queen of England. This isn't a question of ignorance or inexperience on Obama's part.
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Re: Obama bows to Saudi King, WH DEnies it....

PostBy: billlindley On: Fri Apr 10, 2009 7:57 pm

Folks it comes down to this. Obama, like 50% of the country, is still shocked he is president :shock: Therefore when he meets all these important people he is like a little kid meeting a sports figure or an actor – Shocked.

At the end of the day, just as much as Bush shouldn’t be holding hands with the guy, Obama shouldn’t be bowing to the guy. Call it a bow or a curtsy he is still offering that the King is more powerful then he. When to Kings come face to face neither bows to the other. This whole democracy thing shouldn’t blur the line that the president is the single most important American and the single most powerful.

As Aragon says to the 4 hobbits – Obama you bow to no one.
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PostBy: Richard S. On: Fri Apr 10, 2009 8:21 pm

billlindley wrote:At the end of the day, just as much as Bush shouldn’t be holding hands with the guy, .


That's reciprocal and a sign of friendship in the Arab world so it's significantly different. From my understanding it wouldn't raise any more eyebrows over there than a picture here would of them clinking two beer glasses together.
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PostBy: BillMarti On: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:08 pm

Why is Bush even involved in this holding hands is not showing submission it's showing cultural respect. But no matter what culture in the world you look at bowing is showing submission to their authority period. If the liberals can't defend their"messiah" on his own merits other than use somebody they don't like it's very ,very sad. I was taught if I got caught doing something inappropriate I myself was held completely responsible for my actions no matter who was with me e they were dealt with on their own merits. What I don't and will never agree with is that whatever BO does or acts on always comes down to the same excuse Bush caused this and thats why I can act irresponsible in my decisions no matter who or what it affects. If the man can't make a reasonable decision on right and wrong the "He is working above his pay grade and needs a CHANGE". The democrats are doing exactly what the republicans did and in spades and they really need to get together because they both stand for the same thing under different guises. Waaa waaa waaa waaa is all you do when you get caught.

Bill S.
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PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:47 pm

President Obama shouldn't get a pass on this. He is no longer the citizen Obama; he's our President. He represents the office of President of the United States and the citizens of the United States of America.


Well said, Coalen.
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Re: Obama bows to Saudi King, WH DEnies it....

PostBy: billlindley On: Sat Apr 11, 2009 12:37 am

BillMarti wrote:Why is Bush even involved in this holding hands is not showing submission it's showing cultural respect.

Bill S.


I'll help the :devil: here. If you simply say that Bush is showing a cultural sign of respect then if Obama was to publicing kane his wife for looking at another man you wouldn't haev a problem correct? That a cultural/religous custom in many arab nations.

You can't blur this on party lines. Bush was wrong Obama was wrong. It's not a question of who was wronger (not good grammer) it's a question of whether the president of the United States should be doing these things.
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