Obama bows to Saudi King, WH DEnies it....

Re: Obama bows to Saudi King, WH DEnies it....

PostBy: mikeandgerry On: Sat Apr 11, 2009 2:08 am

coalkirk wrote:One would assume Obamas handlers would be briefing him on proper protocol for such occaisions. So I'm going to say the error was theirs. It's well established protocol that the POTUS does not bow to royalty. It was obvioulsy a bow. His "peeps" have blown it on a number of well publicized events. I'm not a fan of Obama but this is not his fault. If he doesn't get some close advisers who know their ass from third base though, then it's going to be his fault.


I think it would be more logical to assume that Obama is the highly educated and highly intelligent President of the United States that the people placed in office as a shining example of class and sophistication.

Such an eloquent and refined person should be quite versed in basic protocol for greeting heads of state. After all, we low-life coal burners seem to understand what to do and not to do as evidenced by your own statement. (see above, italics mine)

Nice try coalkirk and dev, but like Obama's point man, your wild explanation flies in the face of reality and good sense. Obama is either a naive fool or he felt obligated to bow. Hmmmmm.....why did he feel obligated? Is he closer to the arab culture than we realize? Barack Hussein Obama, with the middle name we couldn't mention. Perhaps it's more important than we realized. Just some food for thought.
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PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Sat Apr 11, 2009 7:32 am

I think it would be more logical to assume that Obama is the highly educated and highly intelligent President of the United States that the people placed in office as a shining example of class and sophistication.


Only one President in recent history showed true class and sophistication as well as genuine respect for the office he held. We need another like him.
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PostBy: brckwlt On: Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:41 am

there is one like him conservative, fiscally responsible, good morals .. Non Saudi lover waiting in the wings ... Her name is Sarah Palin.
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Re: Obama bows to Saudi King, WH DEnies it....

PostBy: coalkirk On: Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:01 am

mikeandgerry wrote:I think it would be more logical to assume that Obama is the highly educated and highly intelligent President of the United States that the people placed in office as a shining example of class and sophistication.

Such an eloquent and refined person should be quite versed in basic protocol for greeting heads of state. After all, we low-life coal burners seem to understand what to do and not to do as evidenced by your own statement. (see above, italics mine)

Nice try coalkirk and dev, but like Obama's point man, your wild explanation flies in the face of reality and good sense. Obama is either a naive fool or he felt obligated to bow. Hmmmmm.....why did he feel obligated? Is he closer to the arab culture than we realize? Barack Hussein Obama, with the middle name we couldn't mention. Perhaps it's more important than we realized. Just some food for thought.


Don't paint me an apologist for Obama. You give him way too much credit to think he knows what the international protocols are for greeting various heads of state. His wife "touched" the queen for gods sake. That's supposed to be a big no-no. Education doesn't teach you this stuff. His handlers are supposed to know and should have. That's the reality. While my political leanings should be well known to anyone reading this forum whose head isn't up their butt, in case yours is Mikeandgerry, I'm right of Reagan. Don't ever try to portray me as a liberal or you might just have a black helicopter following you down the next lonely road you drive. :shock: :cry: (I've got connections at Blackwater)
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PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:39 am

The term "Handlers" amuses me. Makes the Chief Exec sound like a blithering idiot who has to have a group around him at all times to make sure he doesn't do or say anything wrong. :D
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PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:44 am

you might just have a black helicopter following you down the next lonely road you drive.
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Re: Obama bows to Saudi King, WH DEnies it....

PostBy: JohnMck On: Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:29 am

As Americans, we don't ever bow to royalty. the Revolution was fought to get rid of a king.
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PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:33 am

mikeandgerry wrote:
coalkirk wrote:One would assume Obamas handlers would be briefing him on proper protocol for such occaisions. So I'm going to say the error was theirs. It's well established protocol that the POTUS does not bow to royalty. It was obvioulsy a bow. His "peeps" have blown it on a number of well publicized events. I'm not a fan of Obama but this is not his fault. If he doesn't get some close advisers who know their ass from third base though, then it's going to be his fault.


I think it would be more logical to assume that Obama is the highly educated and highly intelligent President of the United States that the people placed in office as a shining example of class and sophistication.

Such an eloquent and refined person should be quite versed in basic protocol for greeting heads of state. After all, we low-life coal burners seem to understand what to do and not to do as evidenced by your own statement. (see above, italics mine)

Nice try coalkirk and dev, but like Obama's point man, your wild explanation flies in the face of reality and good sense. Obama is either a naive fool or he felt obligated to bow. Hmmmmm.....why did he feel obligated? Is he closer to the arab culture than we realize? Barack Hussein Obama, with the middle name we couldn't mention. Perhaps it's more important than we realized. Just some food for thought.



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Re: Obama bows to Saudi King, WH DEnies it....

PostBy: mikeandgerry On: Sat Apr 11, 2009 12:29 pm

coalkirk wrote:Don't paint me an apologist for Obama. You give him way too much credit to think he knows what the international protocols are for greeting various heads of state. His wife "touched" the queen for gods sake. That's supposed to be a big no-no. Education doesn't teach you this stuff. His handlers are supposed to know and should have. That's the reality. While my political leanings should be well known to anyone reading this forum whose head isn't up their butt, in case yours is Mikeandgerry, I'm right of Reagan. Don't ever try to portray me as a liberal or you might just have a black helicopter following you down the next lonely road you drive. :shock: :cry: (I've got connections at Blackwater)


I know where your political leanings are coalkirk, but your post gives the Obama's and his handlers way too much slack and put you in the left's camp on this issue. The Obama's actions had meaning and they were no accidents.

YOU knew what the Obama's should have done. Two Harvard educated people should have known at least what you or I know about US protocol with foreign heads of state. Both Obama and his wife are trying too hard to make a "positive" impression to distance themselves from the previous administration. They want to demonstrate the "kinder, gentler" US. Their actions were contrived.

For all left wingers, personal symbolism is extremely important and revered. Obama knows the ropes when it comes to symbolism. Modern left wingers consider it far more important in everyday life than you or I. What he "told" the Saudi King is that the US will be subordinate.

Reagan NEVER would have considered such an act of fealty. During the campaign I didn't question Obama's heritage interferring with US interests. Now I think it deserves a second look based on his actions. Perhaps you should re-check the location of your head.
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PostBy: samhill On: Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:18 pm

Maybe he did it just so everyone here would have something to argue about for the rest of the week.
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Re: Obama bows to Saudi King, WH DEnies it....

PostBy: mikeandgerry On: Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:25 pm

samhill wrote:Maybe he did it just so everyone here would have something to argue about for the rest of the week.


I had no idea there was a shortage of topics! :lol:
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PostBy: evilstevie On: Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:26 pm

If I were Obama, I'd bow to everyone, just to send the bitter right wing kooks and Rush followers into hysterics. That seems to be an easy thing to do. :D
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PostBy: Dann757 On: Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:37 pm

Bowing like that made me sick. Shelly touching the Queen disgusting. I think they're power drunk they think they're rock stars. Let's throw away our nukes, let a few pirates push the Navy around, let his people disarm law abiding citizens, give a free ride to all the illegals, unbelievable.
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PostBy: spc On: Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:32 am

Is this a bow???

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PostBy: gaw On: Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:06 pm

And then Akihito patted him on the head and said “such a good boy”
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