Captive Pirate

Captive Pirate

PostBy: tvb On: Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:09 pm

What should happen to him?

It's looking like he is a very young teen - too young to be prosecuted as an adult under US law. I saw some reports that he may be 16 but we routinely prosecute kids that age as adults so I'm guessing he is even younger than that.

Reports are that once he was on board the US ship, he didn't want to return to the lifeboat so I imagine he is probably malleable as far as talking (assuming he knows anything and chances are, he doesn't).

So, what should the US do with him? Bring him here? Hand him over to Kenya as we've done with previous pirates? Throw him overboard?
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Re: Captive Pirate

PostBy: Devil505 On: Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:25 pm

My first inclination would be to make him walk the plank! :mad:

If the news stories of him trying to defect (in effect) to the U.S. Navy turn out to be accurate, That would have to be taken into account at his sentencing by a U.S. judge.
Here;'s my level headed, non-emotional thinking:

1. He should be transported back to the U.S. & tried in federal court for the crime of piracy, which carries the possabilty of Capital Punishment.
2. Since he was captured as he was committing a Capital Offense, there is no question of guilt & the only court action should be sentencing.
3. His defense attorney will be allowed to introduce any mitigating circumstances before his sentencing.

Let a federal judge decide his punishment which I would recommend to be death.
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Re: Captive Pirate

PostBy: tvb On: Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:29 pm

But what if he is only 12 or 13 years old?

Sorry, but people on both sides of the aisle would go nuts if we were to sentence to death someone that age. Plus, under US law, it wouldn't be allowed.

For the record, I don't know what should happen to him if he is that young. If he was older, I have a very reluctant acceptance of the death penalty but kids that age doing stuff like this are a whole different story.
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Re: Captive Pirate

PostBy: Ashcat On: Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:37 pm

His case will be a media sensation, millions of taxpayer dollars will be spent on him, and eventually he will be celebrated as a hero by the Left. His sentencing will be a book- and movie-deal.
I'm not kidding about this.
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Re: Captive Pirate

PostBy: tvb On: Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:40 pm

Ashcat wrote:His case will be a media sensation, millions of taxpayer dollars will be spent on him, and eventually he will be celebrated as a hero by the Left.
I'm not kidding about this.


I think you are wrong and will bookmark your comment away for several months to prove it to you.
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Re: Captive Pirate

PostBy: Ashcat On: Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:43 pm

tvb wrote:
Ashcat wrote:His case will be a media sensation, millions of taxpayer dollars will be spent on him, and eventually he will be celebrated as a hero by the Left.
I'm not kidding about this.


I think you are wrong and will bookmark your comment away for several months to prove it to you.

It'll take more than several months--you promised that, not me. I'll say 18-24 months, if you want a guess, on the book deal. The movie will follow that by a year or so.
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Re: Captive Pirate

PostBy: tvb On: Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:44 pm

Oh, there's definitely a movie in the works. I suspect the captain already sold his rights.
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Re: Captive Pirate

PostBy: Devil505 On: Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:58 pm

tvb wrote:But what if he is only 12 or 13 years old?

Sorry, but people on both sides of the aisle would go nuts if we were to sentence to death someone that age. Plus, under US law, it wouldn't be allowed.

For the record, I don't know what should happen to him if he is that young. If he was older, I have a very reluctant acceptance of the death penalty but kids that age doing stuff like this are a whole different story.



My personal feeling is that he was old enough to be carrying an AK47 an committing the act of piracy & therefore, he is old enough to be put to death.
(if his lawyer can produce proof that he was a worker for Mother Theresa & fed orphans up until he suddnly decided to grab an AK47 & start being a pirate, the judge will take that into account.
Regardless of his age, his execution would add to the deterrent effect when future pirates are trying to decide if it wise to capture American ships or harm American citizens.
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Re: Captive Pirate

PostBy: Cap On: Sun Apr 12, 2009 8:02 pm

A SEAL should throw him overboard while underway. "What pirate"? "Oh, that guy, he bailed on us"!
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Re: Captive Pirate

PostBy: mr1precision On: Sun Apr 12, 2009 8:11 pm

They should have shot the little prick when they had the chance. We have to make an example out of them. You don't play patty cakes with these savages. The only thing they understand and respect is one thing, POWER. If you F with us, you and your ship will be sunk no matter how old you are. End of story!
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Re: Captive Pirate

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:21 pm

tvb wrote:But what if he is only 12 or 13 years old?

Sorry, but people on both sides of the aisle would go nuts if we were to sentence to death someone that age. Plus, under US law, it wouldn't be allowed.

For the record, I don't know what should happen to him if he is that young. If he was older, I have a very reluctant acceptance of the death penalty but kids that age doing stuff like this are a whole different story.



if he was 10 years old they should hold him on the rail of the ship shoot him behind the ear with a pistol and let his pos body fall in the drink and maybe get chopped up in the prop. and capture it on camera and show it in samali tv 24/7.

period. there should be no 5 day decision reguarding taking action like this. the o man waited too long to give permission as he was and they knew he was in danger as soon as the big eyes spotted them as well as the satallite photo's.
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Re: Captive Pirate

PostBy: Jeddbird On: Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:57 pm

I agree the remaining pirate needs to be made an example of....period!
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Re: Captive Pirate

PostBy: jpete On: Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:32 pm

Poconoeagle wrote:if he was 10 years old they should hold him on the rail of the ship shoot him behind the ear with a pistol and let his pos body fall in the drink and maybe get chopped up in the prop. and capture it on camera and show it in samali tv 24/7..


Honestly, WTF is that going to do? Do you think you can scare him straight? How many people do you think he saw shot or hacked up with a machete? Maybe he's even killed several people himself. Lock him up, execute him. It really doesn't make a difference. There's another kid waiting to pick up that AK right behind him.

His choices in life are pretty much limited to joining a militia or becoming a pirate. Life expectancy is probably nearly the same but he might make a little cash being a pirate.
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Re: Captive Pirate

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:40 pm

jpete wrote:
Poconoeagle wrote:if he was 10 years old they should hold him on the rail of the ship shoot him behind the ear with a pistol and let his pos body fall in the drink and maybe get chopped up in the prop. and capture it on camera and show it in samali tv 24/7..


Honestly, WTF is that going to do? Do you think you can scare him straight? How many people do you think he saw shot or hacked up with a machete? Maybe he's even killed several people himself. Lock him up, execute him. It really doesn't make a difference. There's another kid waiting to pick up that AK right behind him.

His choices in life are pretty much limited to joining a militia or becoming a pirate. Life expectancy is probably nearly the same but he might make a little cash being a pirate.


anyones choices in life are only limited to thier own decisions. that little dinghy can make it to a better place. the other kid picking up the ak will take a 5.56 in the head also and soon thier wont be any more of thier scum to pick it up. sort of like the child gooks in nam who did the same thing but got wacked for the good of the many. the scared straight mentality does have a positive effect with the youth. it is a fact proven right in the good ole usa. the blood in-blood out method also works.
also it will give much needed moral to a nation who is in a clockwise spiral to the cesspool.
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Re: Captive Pirate

PostBy: jpete On: Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:44 pm

Poconoeagle wrote: the scared straight mentality does have a positive effect with the youth. it is a fact proven right in the good ole usa. .


You must live in a different "good ol' usa" than I do. The one I live in has a low literacy rate, I high drop out rate, a massive incarceration rate and a gigantic recidivism rate.

Let me know when "scared straight" starts working....
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