brckwlt wrote: I followed very closely just like obama did. All he did was answer a phone when the miltary called to say hey we have em in sight can we finally take the damn shot. Then he sat and pondered for a few minutes then realized he had no other choice.
Richard S. wrote:
I'd agree that Obama wasn't making decisions here but taking the advice given to him by subordinates as most Presidents would. Presidents don't really make decisions. They are presented with a set of options of what has already been decided on. I'm going to take a guess they had standing orders to end the situation when the opportunity presented itself. I only say guess because I obviously don't know the details but they aren't going to be screwing around trying to get a decision from him. Either Obama or someone else made that a long time before the incident.
In any event it's going to be interesting to see how this develops.
brckwlt wrote:I thought this story seemed rather familiar to me.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= ... refer=home
Obama wants to go to Somalia and attack pirate bases on land. Then they want to train security forces and develop its own coast guard.
Correct me if im wrong but we did do this somewhere else didnt we. Oh yes IRAQ. But now its cool since Obama wants to do it.
I read junk like your post and it seems like you WANT Americans to die so that Obama looks bad. I'm sure if one of the Seals missed and the Captain ended up dead you'd be blaming Obama, not the Seal who missed the shot.
Black_And_Blue wrote:This begs more questions. I can understand the Commander on scene asking for permission to fire but once the authorization is granted why would a second request be needed. It seems likely that there were restriction placed the order or the initial authorization was unclear.
I have not heard this discussed, opinions please.
stockingfull wrote:Wow, did somebody drop acid in your collective Kool-Aid now?
stockingfull wrote: He understood EXACTLY what a President should do in the circumstances: make his decision about the level of intervention, keep that close to his vest, and let the military carry his orders out within the parameters he set.
stockingfull wrote:As to what to do about Somalia going forward, Obama's much too smart to send our troops in unless there's a GENUINE international group of nations to do it with. OTOH, if he can find where these people operate, he can and should "incapacitate" them with drones, planes or missiles.
stockingfull wrote:What you guys can't stand is that a "community organizer" got an A+ on his first semester of foreign policy, including the military ops test.
And no if the seal who took the shot missed and killed the captian then its the seal fault not obamas. Obama is at fault for taking so freaking long to do anything. This should of been taken care of day one.
brckwlt wrote:i suspect that obama was trying to figure out a way to do this without getting any blood on his hands so he wouldn't seem like a bad guy.
coaledsweat wrote:brckwlt wrote:i suspect that obama was trying to figure out a way to do this without getting any blood on his hands so he wouldn't seem like a bad guy.
He isn't to bashful about killing Al Quida and Taliban in Pakistan. Almost daily the Predators are whacking them.
brckwlt wrote:They were following the ship since the 6th of april. Right then and there we should of used one of our subs to blow there ship up. Then no hostages would of been taken on an american ship for the first time in 200 years
http://www.rferl.org/content/Somali_Pir ... 05617.html
they say april 6th. so obama knew since atleast then. they might of known the pirates were planning this even earlier