Arming Ones Self For A Home Invasion

Re: Arming Ones Self For A Home Invasion

PostBy: mr1precision On: Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:35 pm

DVC500_at_last wrote:Mossberg 500AC 12ga
26" C-LECT-CHOKE barrel, which is chambered for 3"
$87 brand new
Purchased 33 years ago.
Used for deer hunting

Gun safe $300 (we have kids)
Mossberg_500AC.jpg

I had one of those! I actually shot skeet with it. It wasnt easy with a 29" barrel.
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Re: Arming Ones Self For A Home Invasion

PostBy: 009to090 On: Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:44 pm

mr1precision wrote:I had one of those! I actually shot skeet with it. It wasnt easy with a 29" barrel.


It provides the best BANG-for-the-buck, out there. :D The action still works as it did when new.
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Re: Arming Ones Self For A Home Invasion

PostBy: mr1precision On: Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:46 pm

DVC500_at_last wrote:
mr1precision wrote:I had one of those! I actually shot skeet with it. It wasnt easy with a 29" barrel.


It provides the best BANG-for-the-buck, out there. :D The action still works as it did when new.


There's nothing quite like the sound of one being pumped either huh?
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Re: Arming Ones Self For A Home Invasion

PostBy: shapps1313 On: Sat Apr 18, 2009 5:06 am

I see you split your time between MD and Sunbury,Next time you are "home" in Sunbury, take a trip over to Geiser guns. They are by Tru-Built lumber, across the street from the cheese plant,its kind of a non descript block building,small sign. They have a wide assortment of weaponry. Both new and used. I have been there numerous times and they are always very helpful,but also very busy. Prices are not too bad.

Bill
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Re: Arming Ones Self For A Home Invasion

PostBy: kjb197 On: Sat Apr 18, 2009 7:26 am

Its up to each individual/situation to decide how readily available their home defense weapons should be. Fumbling with a trigger lock, safe combo, etc. while an intruder is fast approaching is not ideal but its a chance I'm willing to take over any accidents. When kids are old enough take them shooting and hopefully they'll get enough appropriate trigger time there won't be any fascination with the guns.

12 ga is the way to go but keep in mind drywall will not stop the projectiles. Know whats behind/beyond your target.
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PostBy: brckwlt On: Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:16 am

shapps1313 wrote:I see you split your time between MD and Sunbury,Next time you are "home" in Sunbury, take a trip over to Geiser guns. They are by Tru-Built lumber, across the street from the cheese plant,its kind of a non descript block building,small sign. They have a wide assortment of weaponry. Both new and used. I have been there numerous times and they are always very helpful,but also very busy. Prices are not too bad.

Bill


thanx for the info, i will look them up next time i get a chance when im in sunbury. Do you live in sunbury as well?
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PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Sat Apr 18, 2009 9:49 am

PC 12-47E wrote:
brckwlt wrote:So the lights and laser cost more then the gun itself?

I think ill pass on the light and laser


My light and my laser cost about $275. The light is very bright. :idea: With the laser set up on the Rock River .223, it is easy to hit a golf ball at 75'. :D

PC 12


good price, my crimsontrace for the a2 was over 300 the acog trijacon was pricy also then the lite....

almost as much fun as shoping chrome in the HD store...
those fluted barrels get the compulsion going also!! :D
http://www.crimsontrace.com/Home/Produc ... fault.aspx
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Re: Arming Ones Self For A Home Invasion

PostBy: RMA On: Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:31 am

The likelyhood of being Near your Shotgun at "Time of Break in" is "iffy"...
On the other hand, the Resonant BARK of a Hefty POOCH is more responsive 24/7
And the POOCH can't be turned upon you if you "Discover" a "Guest" upon returning home...

Bob
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Re: Arming Ones Self For A Home Invasion

PostBy: JohnMck On: Sat Apr 18, 2009 1:30 pm

Pump Action Shotgu. Nothing else in the world sounds like the pump of a shotgun, and everyone knows that sound. if you're not great shot, they're very forgiving.
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PostBy: Freddy On: Sat Apr 18, 2009 1:48 pm

I was thinking that bird shot would be a good choice, thinking that it's forgiving with aim and even if it didn't kill someone, it would be like they got kicked by an elephant. I was just doing some reading and it's suggested that you do NOT use it for home protection. Apparently being kicked by an elephant only pisses off intruders. It said you NEED to penetrate to vital organs or you're not going to stop a criminal. Bird shot does not penetrate far enough. Back to the cannon on the headboard!
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PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Sat Apr 18, 2009 4:03 pm

lord knows there needs to be deep penetration at the headboard area. :roll:
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Re: Arming Ones Self For A Home Invasion

PostBy: PC 12-47E On: Sat Apr 18, 2009 4:38 pm

Freddy wrote:I was thinking It does not penetrate far enough. Back to the cannon on the headboard!

Poconoeagle wrote:lord knows there needs to be deep penetration at the headboard area. :roll:


Why does Freddy refer to the bed and headboard as his "Workbench"? :secret: :notworthy: :drool: :whip:
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Re: Arming Ones Self For A Home Invasion

PostBy: brckwlt On: Sat Apr 18, 2009 4:44 pm

RMA wrote:The likelyhood of being Near your Shotgun at "Time of Break in" is "iffy"...
On the other hand, the Resonant BARK of a Hefty POOCH is more responsive 24/7
And the POOCH can't be turned upon you if you "Discover" a "Guest" upon returning home...

Bob



I do have a pooch. The pooch is very old and slow :( But i believe she would still protect us the best she could if there was a break in.
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PostBy: KLook On: Sat Apr 18, 2009 6:30 pm

No matter what kind of shot you use in the shotgun, it will not open up enough in a home defense situation to make up for poor aim. Unless you have an illegal length barrrel. Freddy is right about what the experts say but I think anyone hit with a load of number 4 shot will be not so dangerous afterwards. And the smaller shot will not penetrate walls with as much lethality. Hit them in the face and you blind them permenantly. Be sure and kill them because they will sue you for ruining their lives if you maim them. Lots of lawyers looking for those kind of cases. We can talk about what/where/when all day but the best thing for anyone arming themselves is to get some instruction and practice.
I would like to address the concern of children and firearms. In this rural area in the 60's, every home had guns. All children were raised with the guns standing in the corner or multiple corners. No one had fancy locking gun cases. I would like to be able to tell you why we did not "play" with the guns and neither did my friends. It is about the quality of the parents I guess. No one touched the guns!!! We had bb guns at about 10 years old and they were our training. When you make guns so tabboo or unusual or mystical, they are an irrresistable thing for children. Just the same as many kids go out and drink like fish, do drugs, have unprotected sex, etc, etc.
One of my friends at college was from Spain. He was accustomed to drinking wine and beer with dinner and meals. He was only 18 so he was illegal here in the US. His parents came for a visit and bought him a bunch of stuff to stockpile under his bed. He had a totally different attitude about alcohol then the American kids. It was not forbidden. It was not mystical. It was best had in moderation. One of the things I have learned from the many international students I have met over the years is that they are amazed how immature the kids are here even if they are the same age. We try to keep our kids "kids" to long so they have to rely on us longer. It shows in the work ethic and raging drug use and lack of maturity of the present American youth. We have relied on immigrant's childeren for our best and brightest for some years now. They are motivated.
So, do what you like with your children, but keeping them innocent and ignorant will not pay off in the long run because they will grow up and have to face life whether you like it or not.

Just my other 2 cents worth,
Kevin
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Re: Arming Ones Self For A Home Invasion

PostBy: e.alleg On: Mon Apr 20, 2009 1:45 am

I agree with KLook but I keep my guns locked up and my ammo locked in a separate spot. I couldn't live with myself if one my kid's friends shot someone. I trust my kids, they all have pulled the trigger and there is no mystery as what a gun is. I don't trust some of their friends, it's a chance I don't want to take. My primary HD weapon is my 2 dogs and my fists, if they make it that far my neighbor will blast him.
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