Carbon nonsense going to kill us?

Carbon nonsense going to kill us?

PostBy: Paulie On: Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:42 pm

I am curious to see if the CO2 hoopla is going to kill us here in the anthracite world. Is it safe to invest in equipment now?
Will the gov. kill off coal? I would think not, but they make it too expensive. Who knows?
Paulie
 
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Re: Carbon nonsense going to kill us?

PostBy: brckwlt On: Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:45 pm

Paulie wrote:I am curious to see if the CO2 hoopla is going to kill us here in the anthracite world. Is it safe to invest in equipment now?
Will the gov. kill off coal? I would think not, but they make it too expensive. Who knows?



Ill go with making it way to expensive to afford. and not worth the hassle for most people. I hope this doesnt happen but i have zero faith in my govt. They think coal is dirty and harming the enviroment so they will do everything they can to bring coal down.
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Re: Carbon nonsense going to kill us?

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:58 pm

Everything at the moment Paulie is aimed at power plants and industry which is a concern itself.
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Re: Carbon nonsense going to kill us?

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Sun Apr 19, 2009 1:15 pm

I don't see any real change coming soon, the politicians that want all this nonsense are still heating the Capital building with a 100 year old coal plant. If they can't get rid of their coal heat they sure aren't coming after ours. It will be a long slow process that will start with industry and work it's way down. Any real price increases will reflect what is going on with the politicians and the economy. That said, I doubt that coal will ever lose it's place as the cheapest fuel since it 82% of the recoverable energy in this country. Everything else will go up, coal will just follow the leaders maintaining it's distance.
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Re: Carbon nonsense going to kill us?

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sun Apr 19, 2009 1:32 pm

coaledsweat wrote:I don't see any real change coming soon, the politicians that want all this nonsense are still heating the Capital building with a 100 year old coal plant. If they can't get rid of their coal heat they sure aren't coming after ours.


Unless something has changed recently it was only a few weeks ago it was announced it would be converted to gas.
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Re: Carbon nonsense going to kill us?

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Sun Apr 19, 2009 1:55 pm

Key word 'announced'.
Let us see it get done.
Some BS about something can not happen then it will be forgotten about.
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Re: Carbon nonsense going to kill us?

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Sun Apr 19, 2009 2:58 pm

Richard S. wrote:
coaledsweat wrote:I don't see any real change coming soon, the politicians that want all this nonsense are still heating the Capital building with a 100 year old coal plant. If they can't get rid of their coal heat they sure aren't coming after ours.


Unless something has changed recently it was only a few weeks ago it was announced it would be converted to gas.


Yes it was, but a week later I read in the NYT that they found out what it would cost to change over plus the significantly increased operating costs and it didn't look all that palatable to Congress. Maybe that is why they backed down on the carbon tax nonsense?
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Re: Carbon nonsense going to kill us?

PostBy: Duengeon master On: Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:20 pm

coaledsweat wrote:
Richard S. wrote:
coaledsweat wrote:I don't see any real change coming soon, the politicians that want all this nonsense are still heating the Capital building with a 100 year old coal plant. If they can't get rid of their coal heat they sure aren't coming after ours.


Unless something has changed recently it was only a few weeks ago it was announced it would be converted to gas.


Yes it was, but a week later I read in the NYT that they found out what it would cost to change over plus the significantly increased operating costs and it didn't look all that palatable to Congress. Maybe that is why they backed down on the carbon tax nonsense?

Do you think they give a $%&# about the price of anything? They have spent more money in the past three months than every president from George Washington to George Bush and every one in between! :mad2: :mad: :cry:
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Re: Carbon nonsense going to kill us?

PostBy: Paulie On: Sun Apr 19, 2009 6:16 pm

Oh politicians care about money....and what stuff costs. Not out of concern for affordability, but electability. If peoples
wallets get croaked on your watch, the odds of re-election are close to 0%. Ask any Republican office holder, the latest
example of $$$ back lash. You can be a total turd, but if the economy is decent, you get re-elected.
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Re: Carbon nonsense going to kill us?

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Sun Apr 19, 2009 9:36 pm

It could be cheaper to bail out the banks than heat the Capital buildings on gas?
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Re: Carbon nonsense going to kill us?

PostBy: Paulie On: Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:15 am

Hard to get re-elected if the economy STOPS, which was happening when the banks seized up. So yes, politically it is cheaper to bail out the banks.
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Re: Carbon nonsense going to kill us?

PostBy: stoker-man On: Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:27 am

Have you been to a tea party? I have. They are building momentum and don't think the politicians don't notice it. They know that they are being watched when it comes to any new laws. It will be my pleasure to fire Sen. Snake in PA next Spring.
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Re: Carbon nonsense going to kill us?

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:50 am

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeff-bigg ... 71060.html

In the meantime, at the other 635 coal-fired plants, over 40 percent of our nation's carbon dioxide emissions continue to erupt from electricity plant silos like as silent volcanoes of death.


:stfu:
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Re: Carbon nonsense going to kill us?

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:01 am

350PPM, what is that like? About 20PPM more than what is going in? I guess this carbon nonsense will kill us.
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Re: Carbon nonsense going to kill us?

PostBy: scotty On: Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:01 am

Il They think coal is dirty and harming the enviroment so they will do everything they can to bring coal down.[/quote]

It is dirty and harmfull to the enviroment, that's a fact ! the answear is to get it to burn clean, which they are working on,I have worked on MANY scrubber projects at coal power plants .It's a start but we need to keep technoligy pushing ahead.We have coal lets use it to our advantage to get off oil, but we can't kill the enviroment to get their.
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