What's Your Prediction????

What's Your Prediction????

PostBy: theo On: Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:35 pm

Hello Everyone, Would like to know what your prediction's are for the price of oil and electric for this upcoming heating season, Are they going up or will they be lower? If you say up , guess what price per gallon heating oil will be or for electric what the price of kw will be. We will see how it turn's out !
theo
 
Stove/Furnace Make: LL
Stove/Furnace Model: Hyfire 2

Re: What's Your Prediction????

PostBy: 009to090 On: Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:56 pm

I predict LP, Oil, and Electric will cost more per BTU of heat, than coal will. :D Hows that for going out on a limb?
009to090
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520 HighBoy
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: DVC-500 x 2
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite Rice

Re: What's Your Prediction????

PostBy: theo On: Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:11 pm

Thank You DVC500!!, You just made me feel better about the 10 ton of coal i just bought!! I went out on the limp trying to explain to the better-half that what i am doing is going to save us alot of money on heating bill, I hope it work's cause if it dont i'am going to be spending the winter in the dog box with the dog!! What the heck- wont be the first time and surley wont be the last!! All kidding aside i think when this winter come's and the house is real nice and toasty with the coal burner going,,, I might even get lucky!! Hopefully it wont be with the dog!!
theo
 
Stove/Furnace Make: LL
Stove/Furnace Model: Hyfire 2


Re: What's Your Prediction????

PostBy: brckwlt On: Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:14 pm

theo wrote:Hello Everyone, Would like to know what your prediction's are for the price of oil and electric for this upcoming heating season, Are they going up or will they be lower? If you say up , guess what price per gallon heating oil will be or for electric what the price of kw will be. We will see how it turn's out !


For oil do you want price per barrel or the price for home heating oil? and KWH vary greatly depending where you live. Also the price the give you to compare on your bill doesnt include the distribuation charge, transmission charge, transition charge, or the generation charge, as per my PPL bill. I came up with .144369 cents per KWH right now with all that factored in. BGE electric in reisterstown is .1695 KWH MY NG is sunbury is $1.465 a CCF and in reisterstown its 1.322 a therm. I know for a fact My NG company in sunbury is raising their rates in spet/oct 12% they have told us. so thats how i know it should be about $1.64 a CCF

My guess PPL electric for heating season 09/10 .150 KWH
Home heating Oil $2.50 a gallon
Gasoline 2.30-2.60 a gallon
NG $1.64 CCF
coal anthracite 35 dollars a ton :rockon:
brckwlt
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Axeman-Anderson
Stove/Furnace Model: Rebuilt 1953 AA-130

Re: What's Your Prediction????

PostBy: theo On: Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:28 pm

Hello brckwlt, Thank You for your prediction, on the oil i would like to know what you all think price per gallon will be, the electric let's go buy kwh's on the average.
theo
 
Stove/Furnace Make: LL
Stove/Furnace Model: Hyfire 2

Re: What's Your Prediction????

PostBy: whistlenut On: Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:35 pm

Prices will be slightly higher that this past winter for all fuels. Coal prices will be stable, and don't wait too long to commit to reasonable quotes. For my 39th years burning coal, I'd bank on SSDD in the energy field. Thank God I've got some friends in PA............Heating oil got down to $1.51 in Jan! Propane stayed around $2.40. Do the math........

Think about getting together with a fellow coal burner and go for a trailer load of bulk, or a trailer of bagged.
A coal yard CO-OP just might be a great solution. I'd participate...I'm already in for two TT loads of bulk anyway.
:flex: :pepsi: :drool:
whistlenut
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AA130's,260's, AHS130&260's,EFM900,GJ&VanWert
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Franks Boiler,Itasca415,NYer130,Van Wert
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Yellow Flame
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska-4,Keystoker-2,
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Alaska,Gibraltor,Keystone,Vc Vigilant 2
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Van Wert, NYer's, Ford,Jensen.
Coal Size/Type: Rice,Buck,Pea,Nut&Stove
Other Heating: Oil HWBB

Re: What's Your Prediction????

PostBy: billw On: Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:58 pm

My prediction is I put in a coal boiler. No matter what the cost of oil is, I'm heating with coal.
billw
 
Stove/Furnace Make: EFM 520
Stove/Furnace Model: GOODBYE OIL COMPANY

Re: What's Your Prediction????

PostBy: titleist1 On: Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:00 pm

theo wrote: I hope it work's cause if it dont i'am going to be spending the winter in the dog box with the dog!! What the heck- wont be the first time and surley wont be the last!!


Surely it would be more warm and comfortable to curl up next to the coal stove!! You will probably have to fight the dog for a spot though! :D
titleist1
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Mag Stoker (old style) one in basement, one in workshop
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III on standby for long power outages
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite; Nut/Anthracite

Re: What's Your Prediction????

PostBy: theo On: Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:02 pm

Good One titleist1,,, It might be one of those 3 dog night's!!!
theo
 
Stove/Furnace Make: LL
Stove/Furnace Model: Hyfire 2

Re: What's Your Prediction????

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:47 pm

billw wrote:No matter what the cost of oil is, I'm heating with coal.


You will save money.

I predict the price of coal to remain relative to other fuels like it has for the last 75 years.
I know I'm going out on a limb with this one. :roll:
coaledsweat
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260M
Coal Size/Type: Pea

Re: What's Your Prediction????

PostBy: KLook On: Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:20 pm

Since I have 11.5 tons of coal in my yard and no coal stove to burn it in yet, I predict I will burn coal this coming winter if I get a boiler by then. I year and waiting next month.

Kevin
KLook
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Harman VF 3000
Coal Size/Type: rice, bagged, Blaschak
Stove/Furnace Make: Harman (Back In Maine)
Stove/Furnace Model: VF 3000

Re: What's Your Prediction????

PostBy: 009to090 On: Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:28 pm

KLook wrote:Since I have 11.5 tons of coal in my yard and no coal stove to burn it in yet, I predict I will burn coal this coming winter if I get a boiler by then. I year and waiting next month.
Kevin


Wow Kevin, good thing coal doesn't go bad. You'll be able to burn it eventually. I waited 8 months for my DVC-500, and the dealer says there is now 1 1/2 YEAR wait on new orders :woot:
009to090
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520 HighBoy
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: DVC-500 x 2
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite Rice

Re: What's Your Prediction????

PostBy: theo On: Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:18 pm

Hello Kevin, Having that much coal to burn i would be looking for any type of used coal stove just to have around and be able to burn with in case you dont get the boiler in.
theo
 
Stove/Furnace Make: LL
Stove/Furnace Model: Hyfire 2

Re: What's Your Prediction????

PostBy: KLook On: Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:25 pm

Nah, I am not going to a hand stoker or a hot air stove. I have an old boiler in place that is best used for wood but I burned nut and stove coal in it for 5 years. I just have 11.5 tons of rice sitting there. It will not go bad. And the price is likely to go up so I am still ahead.

Kevin
KLook
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Harman VF 3000
Coal Size/Type: rice, bagged, Blaschak
Stove/Furnace Make: Harman (Back In Maine)
Stove/Furnace Model: VF 3000

Re: What's Your Prediction????

PostBy: 009to090 On: Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:32 pm

KLook wrote: And the price is likely to go up so I am still ahead.
Kevin


Ab-so-lutely correct! ANY coal you buy now, is money in the bank, that is earning interest :D :D :D
Its like buying FOREVER stamps 2 years ago, when the cost per stamp was alot less. Another increase is on its way (my wife works for the local post office)
009to090
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520 HighBoy
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: DVC-500 x 2
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite Rice