Here we go again

Re: Here we go again

PostBy: 009to090 On: Fri May 15, 2009 11:56 am

cabinover wrote:Hmmm....maybe time to buy stock in Exxon/Mobil.


I did, in 1990. Thats whats paying the mortgage until I find another job.
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Re: Here we go again

PostBy: Duengeon master On: Fri May 15, 2009 8:00 pm

Don't worry guys. our hero will come riding in on his great white stallion to save us all!! :up: Just look at what he did for General motors and Chrysler. :bang: After he is done with Nazi Pilosi He will solve all our problems. :blah:
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Re: Here we go again

PostBy: efo141 On: Fri May 15, 2009 11:06 pm

The refineries run near capacity and any glitch/changeover/blend change/maintenance causes a drop in production.
We actually import refined gasoline due to a lack of refining capacity.


I heard the oil company's cut back production because of low demand for gas. I would bet it was to drive the price up, and it did. OPEC said they think a fair price is 75 a barrel and they will get it. They did not seem that concerned when oil was 150 a barrel.
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Re: Here we go again

PostBy: samhill On: Sat May 16, 2009 9:55 am

The blame for all this crap going on is pure greed plain & simple. Now some people critize B.O. for not having everything fixed by now, the oil industry IMO is one of the biggest culprits in this whole mess a lot more so than opec. They created a lot of the high prices thru speculation now if you use less they have to raise the price, if you use more they have to raise the price. The bottom line is greed.
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Re: Here we go again

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Sun May 17, 2009 6:35 pm

/rant
And if they raise the price too much?
Someone will develop a liquid fuel to replace all that nasty crude oil.
Oh, the Big oil companies will just squash that like the 200 MPG carburator?
But the Big Car companies are now owned by the Govenment.
Therefore it must be collusion on the part of the Govenment to help support the Big Oil companies?
Now 'The Saviour' is part of the problem.
rant\

http://www.hartfeuer.net/academic/GreedMcKelvyPaper.pdf
Greed is a destructive brand of self-interest that, despite its bad-boy or strong motivation
appeal, is detrimental to the integrity of the United States, its economy, and its long-term future.
Among those who we would assume support “greed,” including Adam Smith, and Ayn Rand, we
actually see misinterpretation and a collective disapproval of the behavior. Greed is not a
character trait people wish to advertise—yet it remains a strong hidden force. It fosters
inequality, deepens deception, withers away national pride and trust, and encourages short-term
behavior that is ill suited for the long-run health of the economy.


Self-interest in a capalitalist society keeps most 'things' in line.
Too much government regulation/interference/intervention upsets the natural moderation of self-interest.
Both links are an easy read.
Bio-Fuel is the solution to the 'Oil' problem

http://www.unh.edu/p2/biodiesel/article_alge.html
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.

Quit bitching about what 'they' are doing to you and do something for yourself and your local community!
Big Government will fail because it is not sustainable but it sure sounds good when everything is free!
The problem is with who is going to pay the collective bill for all those 'free' services?
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Re: Here we go again

PostBy: plantman On: Thu May 21, 2009 4:21 pm

In central Michigan, $2.49 today.
One thing that makes me happy though is that price increases cannot be blamed on GWB any longer. lol
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Re: Here we go again

PostBy: BillMarti On: Thu May 21, 2009 6:39 pm

I been watching MSNBC and other news stations and it seems the liberals have turned on their master BO. Now all as we need is to see that both sides admit to their irresponsibility in this mess and allowing this price gouging to continue. Even if we had 3 more socialist presidents more it still would be Bushes fault because all our representatives are all a bunch of little spoiled girls that blame everybody else for what they did and think we're to stupid to see behind the curtain.

Sorry for the rant but I'm really disappointed in our government past and present.

Bill S.
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Re: Here we go again

PostBy: SMITTY On: Fri May 22, 2009 8:30 am

It's made it's way up to $2.35 here --- but I'm paying a bit more than that. In my never-ending quest for horsepower, I downloaded a Hypertech program into my truck's computer which advances the ignition timing soo much, that you can only run 93 octane. Tried 89 once & it was NOT happy -- couldn't even put my foot into it at all. (rattle rattle! :shock: )

The payoff is well worth the extra .35/gallon though! :up:
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Re: Here we go again

PostBy: coalmeister On: Fri May 22, 2009 9:01 pm

BillMarti wrote:I been watching MSNBC and other news stations and it seems the liberals have turned on their master BO. Now all as we need is to see that both sides admit to their irresponsibility in this mess and allowing this price gouging to continue. Even if we had 3 more socialist presidents more it still would be Bushes fault because all our representatives are all a bunch of little spoiled girls that blame everybody else for what they did and think we're to stupid to see behind the curtain.

Sorry for the rant but I'm really disappointed in our government past and present.

Bill S.


What, you think a $10 trillion deficit over the next 10 years is a problem? Why that's only $130k per family of 4. Add that to the $10 trillion already owed rounds it up to a cool quarter of a million per family of four. Not a problem, I'm sure most families can come up with that, at least the ones that pay taxes. No wait, that would make it more like $350k per tax paying family of four. What a bright future our kids face :x :x. Costa Rica here I come
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Re: Here we go again

PostBy: 009to090 On: Fri May 22, 2009 9:14 pm

coalmeister wrote: Costa Rica here I come


Belize. Much better. :D :D :D
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Re: Here we go again

PostBy: BillMarti On: Fri May 22, 2009 10:26 pm

coalmeister,

you think we'll be a third world country soon? I had a thought how about all us coal burners move to Montana do like the dems did infiltrate the the state government and secede from the union and sit back and watch the fun. Just a thought.

Bill S.
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Re: Here we go again

PostBy: coalmeister On: Fri May 22, 2009 10:59 pm

BillMarti wrote:coalmeister,

you think we'll be a third world country soon? I had a thought how about all us coal burners move to Montana do like the dems did infiltrate the state government and secede from the union and sit back and watch the fun. Just a thought.

Bill S.


A very inflated third world country.
Montana, I like it! Them there "fly over states" as the elites like to call them have nearly balanced budgets, my kind of values, and personal freedom. However Costa Rica is very similar in those aspects and you can retire on $1000 a month, and live in paradise. I am having a place built there now, with all the wealth transfer and endless debt going on here I have no hope for this country. It's a great place to be if you are a havenot, not so go for the haves.
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Re: Here we go again

PostBy: Steve.N On: Sat May 23, 2009 9:38 am

$2.55 here last night
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Re: Here we go again

PostBy: sterling40man On: Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:53 pm

$2.72 here this morning. Crude is up again today. It's now over $68 a barrel. Thank goodness coal prices don't fluctuate like oil!
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Re: Here we go again

PostBy: samhill On: Fri Jun 12, 2009 7:56 am

It was $2.59 last evening & this morning its 10 cents higher, the stock market wasn`t even trading. If the price of a barrel of oil goes up a penny they raise each gallon of gas at least a nickel. Any recovery that may have started is going to be crushed.
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