Survey about the type of flue pipe you use

Survey about the type of flue pipe you use

PostBy: stoker-man On: Tue Jun 02, 2009 3:33 pm

Which type of flue pipe, from the boiler to the chimney base, do you use?

Galvanized, Black, or 316 Stainless.
stoker-man
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: 1981 efm wcb-24 in use 365 days a year
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite/Chestnut
Other Heating: Hearthstone wood stove

Re: Survey about the type of flue pipe you use

PostBy: Pa Dealer On: Tue Jun 02, 2009 3:41 pm

I have used all those types. S.S. at my house :D







P.A.
Pa Dealer
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520 DF
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Other Heating: Keystoker
Stove/Furnace Make: EFM DF 520
Stove/Furnace Model: Keystoker

Re: Survey about the type of flue pipe you use

PostBy: Uglysquirrel On: Tue Jun 02, 2009 5:28 pm

heat fab 22 gage welded seam, no visual rust from one season's use.
Uglysquirrel
 
Stove/Furnace Model: Pocono

Re: Survey about the type of flue pipe you use

PostBy: horses_rus On: Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:58 am

I use 26 gage galvanized with no problem :)
horses_rus
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Stoker Coal Boiler 4 Circulator Systom
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Stove/Furnace Make: EFM
Stove/Furnace Model: 520

Re: Survey about the type of flue pipe you use

PostBy: billw On: Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:58 am

Right now I have galvanized because it was free. After one year it's showing signs of rust on the inside of the pipe. Next year I plan on replacing it with black.
billw
 
Stove/Furnace Make: EFM 520
Stove/Furnace Model: GOODBYE OIL COMPANY

Re: Survey about the type of flue pipe you use

PostBy: stoker-man On: Thu Jun 04, 2009 2:25 pm

I'm asking because galvanized is standard around PA, but in other states, the inspectors are questioning the use of it.

For me, if I was installing a unit expected to live 50 years or more, I would use 316 stainless right off the bat.
stoker-man
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: 1981 efm wcb-24 in use 365 days a year
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite/Chestnut
Other Heating: Hearthstone wood stove

Re: Survey about the type of flue pipe you use

PostBy: horses_rus On: Thu Jun 04, 2009 4:05 pm

I just priced SS pipe 8" x 36" about $90.00 :cry: . Galvanized pipe 8" x 60" about $16.00. ;)
Galvanized will last around 3 to 5 years depending on dampness.Good question though. :idea:
horses_rus
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Stoker Coal Boiler 4 Circulator Systom
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Stove/Furnace Make: EFM
Stove/Furnace Model: 520

Re: Survey about the type of flue pipe you use

PostBy: cokehead On: Thu Jun 04, 2009 6:49 pm

I have used all three types. Galvanized is ok on an oil burner or maybe some stokers that have maximum flue temps below 600 degrees. I'm not sure what temp galvanizing starts to smoke off but I think it is over 600. Take that with a grain of salt. I put galvanized on my Warm Morning batch stove (hand fired) and in highensite I consider that a mistake. When I started the stove and had flames licking up the stove pipe it gave off poisonous fumes. I opened all the windows the first time I fired it off when the worst of the fumes where given off. I'll never do that again. I will never put galvanized pipe on a wood stove or hand fired coal stove. The stainless pipe I used on another instillation discolored some but it is fine. I had bought it used from someone who sold me some pea coal...cheap. I'd never pay full price for it. Not that it isn't good; I'm just cheap. I think the black painted pipe is the best choice for cheap focks like me. When it rusts to the point I can easily push a hole in it time for new. I usually get about 3 years out of it.
cokehead
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Locke, Godin, Tarm in da works
Stove/Furnace Model: Warm Morning 617-A, 3721, 502

Re: Survey about the type of flue pipe you use

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Thu Jun 04, 2009 7:10 pm

Galvanized should not be used on solid fuel appliances. If you have it, I would not rush to replace it. However, I would recommend replacing it with black stovepipe or better if you so desire when replacement time comes.
coaledsweat
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260M
Coal Size/Type: Pea

Re: Survey about the type of flue pipe you use

PostBy: stoker-man On: Thu Jun 04, 2009 7:28 pm

Stainless 316 is available through Olympia in Scranton. It's good quality, perfectly round and has welded seams. I paid about $600 for 25 feet, plus a tee, plus custom cap, and some odds and ends. They may not sell direct to you, but you can buy it through efm.

Use this link.


http://www.olympiachimney.com/default.htm
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.
stoker-man
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: 1981 efm wcb-24 in use 365 days a year
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite/Chestnut
Other Heating: Hearthstone wood stove

Re: Survey about the type of flue pipe you use

PostBy: CoalJockey On: Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:55 pm

Stoker-Man

This 316 stainless pipe from Olympia supply..... Can it be used for external flue pipe, or a liner only?

I used galvanized pipe on this building last year temporarily to get the furnace up and running, and I am wanting to get to a stainless pipe.

Any other suppliers out there that you know of? I preferably need 9 inch.... the only thing I can seem to find on the net are those Dura-Flue that are double walled.... and I just want single wall.

Thanks
Tyler
CoalJockey
 
Stove/Furnace Make: EFM
Stove/Furnace Model: 1300 & 520

Re: Survey about the type of flue pipe you use

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:50 pm

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Stove/Furnace Make: Buckwalter & Co. , EFM520
Stove/Furnace Model: No. 28 Glenwood 1880, Alaska

Re: Survey about the type of flue pipe you use

PostBy: SMITTY On: Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:11 am

Used black first time using coal, this was the result after ONE SEASON: ( in moist basement )
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I now have 304 stainless, but this is what it looks like going on yr.3 :
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Holes formed after first season. Getting pretty big now at beginning of 3rd season. BUY 316!!!!
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90* Elbow, surface rust
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BUY 316!! Don't try to save a buck like I did.

FIRST MISTAKE: Black stovepipe -- duration: 1 SEASON
SECOND MISTAKE: 304 stainless stovepipe -- duration: 3 seasons (less, if you don't like holes)

BUY 316!! I'm kicking myself now for not ponying up the cash when I had it! :sick:

Yamabond will become part of my stovepipe this season.... :lol:
SMITTY
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Patriot Coal - custom built by Jim Dorsey
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III (not currently in use)
Coal Size/Type: Rice / Blaschak anthracite
Other Heating: Oil fired Burnham boiler

Re: Survey about the type of flue pipe you use

PostBy: Richard S. On: Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:48 am

Nothing wrong with galvanized. We have the same galvanized pipe for years, might even be original but I'd have to check. Replaced once at most in more than 25 years. Keep in mind the furnace runs 24/7. Keeping the moisture out of it is the key. I know if you keep it shut down in the summer you might get 5 years from a set of galvanized pipes but I wouldn't expect anymore.
Richard S.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert VA1200
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/Anthracite

Re: Survey about the type of flue pipe you use

PostBy: coal berner On: Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:37 am

CoalJockey wrote:Stoker-Man

This 316 stainless pipe from Olympia supply..... Can it be used for external flue pipe, or a liner only?

I used galvanized pipe on this building last year temporarily to get the furnace up and running, and I am wanting to get to a stainless pipe.

Any other suppliers out there that you know of? I preferably need 9 inch.... the only thing I can seem to find on the net are those Dura-Flue that are double walled.... and I just want single wall.

Thanks
Tyler

9 " :? efm 520 is 8" flue and the 1300 is a 12" flue what are you using besides the two efm's that you need 9"
I would not change any sizes on the efm's you will have a draft issue :(
coal berner
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1986 Electric Furnace Man 520 DF
Stove/Furnace Make: Electric Furnace Man
Stove/Furnace Model: DF520