Social Programs Biggest Beneficiaries of "Stimulus Package"

Social Programs Biggest Beneficiaries of "Stimulus Package"

PostBy: Richard S. On: Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:18 pm

Getting tired of saying this ...but........ I told you so. Note the source. :D

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/31110642/

The reality of how the vast majority of the stimulus money will be spent is quite different, and that raises questions about how much help the Recovery Act backed by President Barack Obama will be to the economy in the long run.

Most of the roughly $300 billion coming directly to the states is being funneled through existing government programs for health care, education, unemployment benefits, food stamps and other social services.
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Re: Social Programs Biggest Beneficiaries of "Stimulus Package"

PostBy: 009to090 On: Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:23 pm

Crud.... and here I thought they would pay off my mortgage. :mad: At least they passed another extension on Unemployment Insurance payments, I might not have to sell the house before I find another job.

OBAMA! WHERES THOSE 4 MILLION JOBS YOU WERE GOING TO CREATE ????
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Re: Social Programs Biggest Beneficiaries of "Stimulus Package"

PostBy: pvolcko On: Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:05 pm

He has created thousands of new jobs... in the Census Bureau. And the IRS.

What more could you possibly expect? :)

And he said he'd create or save all those jobs. No doubt they are still clinging to that "or save" part to claim that things would be horribly worse if but for the actions of the administration. They can't prove it or even offer a credible piece of evidence to support the claim, but so what, he's Obama the Great, he can do no wrong.
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Re: Social Programs Biggest Beneficiaries of "Stimulus Package"

PostBy: kootch88 On: Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:24 pm

I beleive he said he would be creating new jobs in alternative energy and other new technology sectors, not saving ALL those old jobs. The attempt to penalize companies for moving overseas was supposed to be used to insulate some of the loss of those old jobs. Given the way the world economy works, or at least how we and the EU alone abide by the rules, it is no surprise the old technoology jobs are going by the wayside.
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Re: Social Programs Biggest Beneficiaries of "Stimulus Package"

PostBy: 009to090 On: Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:28 pm

pvolcko wrote:He has created thousands of new jobs... in the Census Bureau. And the IRS.
And he said he'd create or save all those jobs.


Yep, the SECOND he said that, I told my wife he can't possibly mean the Private sector jobs. They must be all Federal jobs.

Any word about new taxes for companies who use Offshore Outsourcing? I haven't heard of anything lately.
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Re: Social Programs Biggest Beneficiaries of "Stimulus Package"

PostBy: cArNaGe On: Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:31 pm

Is you saying these free fones are not making jobs.


https://www.safelinkwireless.com/Enroll ... /home.aspx
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Re: Social Programs Biggest Beneficiaries of "Stimulus Package"

PostBy: av8r On: Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:33 pm

cArNaGe wrote:Is you saying these free fones are not making jobs.


https://www.safelinkwireless.com/Enroll ... /home.aspx


Don't gots no money?

Don't gots no job?

Here you are..a free phone!
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Re: Social Programs Biggest Beneficiaries of "Stimulus Package"

PostBy: cArNaGe On: Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:43 pm

av8r wrote:
Don't gots no money?

Don't gots no job?

Here you are..a free phone!



It'sso ya don' miss yo' monthly check. When it comes in da mail. just like mammy.
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Re: Social Programs Biggest Beneficiaries of "Stimulus Package"

PostBy: 009to090 On: Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:50 pm

cArNaGe wrote:Is you saying these free fones are not making jobs.


https://www.safelinkwireless.com/Enroll ... /home.aspx



HAHA.... Does Zero income mean we are eligible? :D
We have used TracFones for years. Only cost us about $5 a month. Pay-as-you-use.
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Re: Social Programs Biggest Beneficiaries of "Stimulus Package"

PostBy: Richard S. On: Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:55 pm

kootch88 wrote:I beleive he said he would be creating new jobs in alternative energy and other new technology sectors,


Not going to happen if history is any clue. There's a Spanish University study citing 2.2 Jobs lost for every Green job created. Spain is often cited by many promoting green energy as the model however the chickens are coming home to roost. The 2.2 jobs lost is the tip of the iceberg. They have increased their renewable energy to 30% however this was done through government mandates and subsidization. Sound familiar? The mandates for example required power distributors to purchase power from renewable sources up to 10X the market value. To stop costs from spiraling out of control and a general backlash from the population they allowed the distributors to sell the power to consumers at a loss. They power companies have accrued an enormous deficit, the one article I read is they will have raise rates 35% for 15 years to cover the cost of the electricity and repay the debt. This has all transpired in few short years starting around 2001ish.

This is basically the same thing they want to do here. It's inevitable it will be a disaster for so many reasons it would take a book to write them. The basic problem is once you take the competitiveness out of of market it's going to falter. The renewable energy market will have no reason to innovate and develop affordable energy.
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Re: Social Programs Biggest Beneficiaries of "Stimulus Package"

PostBy: mr1precision On: Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:14 pm

av8r wrote:Don't gots no money?

Don't gots no job?

Here you are..a free phone!


Check out this priceless moment. It's a pic of Michelle Obama serving a homeless person. Meanwhile he pulls out a very expensive blackberry and takes her pic. :gee:
http://fauxhope.com/
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.
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Re: Social Programs Biggest Beneficiaries of "Stimulus Package"

PostBy: SMITTY On: Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:23 pm

:funny: :rofl:

We live this every day in Massachusetts. When you go on welfare in the "great commonwealth" , you get not only a free phone, but......................................................................................................


free gas. And.........................................................................A BRAND NEW CAR! Oh, and you get free food.


Have more kids & voila! A RAISE!



My buddy's sister makes more than I do & hasn't worked a day in her life ....... and drives an ' 09!!!!!!!!!! :shock:
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Re: Social Programs Biggest Beneficiaries of "Stimulus Package"

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:57 pm

Do not forget the section 8 housing 3 bed with heat is only $150 out of pocket for the poor renters!
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Re: Social Programs Biggest Beneficiaries of "Stimulus Package"

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sat Jun 06, 2009 12:30 am

CapeCoaler wrote:Do not forget the section 8 housing 3 bed with heat is only $150 out of pocket for the poor renters!


This is major problem in our area, I blame the Senior Citizens who have the tenacity to die!

What happens is you'll have whole blocks with really small homes built 80, 90 ...100 years ago when coal was king. A lot of them are old company homes. The kids grow up and move out, the parents die and no one wants the house either in the family or to purchase as a home. They'll end up going for very little money to some guy that can really care less about the neighborhood or who is living there. They move in the section 8 crowd and the neighborhood slowly dies.
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