Energy Bill Passes House 219 -212

Onto round two, hopefully it dies in Senate.

Anybody watch Boehner go through the 300 page amendment added 3AM this morning? I'll see if I can find video. The amendments alone are enough to enrage just about anyone with any sense.


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Republicans Voting for this Bill:

• Dave Reichart (R-WA)
• Mike Castle (R-DE)
• Mary Bono Mack (R-CA)
• Mark Kirk (R-IL)
• Leonard Lance (R-NJ)
• Frank LoBiondo (R-NJ)
• Chris Smith (R-NJ)
• John McHugh (R-NY)

Democrats voting against it that should be commended, I'll add a list when I get one.

It is not an energy bill, It is a tax bill.

BD

BobDavis wrote:It is not an energy bill, It is a tax bill.

BD

You are quite right sir, thank you for the correction. It's actually much more than that, to quote Boehner from memory:

Is there anything we aren't regulating?

Here's first few minutes of Boehner's 1 hour speech:



Waxeman tries to stop him 20 minutes in:

Politics? Look at the vote.
How can any legislator read this entire package and make an intelligent decision in a few hours? But we are expected to live with it for the rest of our lives?

Ayes Noes PRES NV
Democratic 211 44 1
Republican 8 168 2
Independent
TOTALS 219 212 3

Remember...we need "Change"!!!

This bill was held up a few hrs so the Dems could determine which members would be most vulnerable in order they could vote against the bill once they had the majority. They had to line up the congressmen who would most likely get trashed back in their home districts. This way, 44 Dems could go back home and say, " I didn't vote for this bill".

If you have not seen Boehners closing speech on the 300 page amendment you must watch it, I promise you will be outraged:

Boehner is my my hero:

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/boe ... 06-27.html

Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) had a few choice words about House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's (D-Calif.) landmark climate-change bill after its passage Friday.

When asked why he read portions of the cap-and-trade bill on the floor Friday night, Boehner told The Hill, "Hey, people deserve to know what's in this pile of s--t."

Interesting. A company that has produced 147 cars is getting half a billion dollars. What is up with that

http://jalopnik.com/tag/department-of-energy/

I think they got it on the promise of moving their tech into a new sedan they've been trying to get through R&D and production, but haven't been able to for lack of funds. Doesn't mean that the government should be giving out loans like this, picking the winners and losers of the green tech industry. I'm quite against it. However, that is most likely the reason, along with some strong political connections through Silicon Valley private investors and the possible desire for people in the government wanting to appear to be fair while they rig the game.

I'm quite surprised by the figure though, half a billion dollars in government loans. Saving political face could have cost a hell of a lot less. And even if the powers that be honestly wanted Tesla to get their sedan to market, half a billion seems like an awful lot of money for that purpose. Maybe they're thinking Tesla will be able to absorb some of the dealerships that GM and Chrysler just axed and build up a serious retail and distribution chain? Still is a crazy long shot given that the government is pumping billions upon billions into the big automakers and has forced them to dive headlong into the same exact market that Tesla has been toiling in for years now.

Their market advantage over Tesla is gigantic, which leaves Tesla with only a couple options. One, get the sedan off the ground, but focus big time on production and retailing of the existing car. Build their brand and market while the bigs are scrambling and developing their first products. Try to get the sedan to retail before the bigs get their first products out the door. Sell, sell, sell. Two, eschew the sedan and the idea of ever becoming a mainstream car producer. Instead focus on becoming the Ferrari of electric vehicles. Fast, high performance, low to moderate endurance, fast. Pour R&D into design, aerodynamics, and a few key drive train technologies (battery storage and recharge/discharge rate, power handling and control systems, cooling systems, etc.). Keep retailing relatively small and focused on high dollar earner locales, but put international presence very high on the list of priorities. Build a world class exotic car brand. Get into some major racing circuits or create one if need be.

Oh that pelosi woman drives me nuts. Her and her california eco-weanie-cult nut job constiutents. Here in pa it can only be bad news, shut down cost effective electricity (coal) to put in wind farms and solar power in an earthquake prone desert. If you want to build the darn wind farms and solar fields, go ahead, and come up with a cost effective panel i can put on my roof, fine, but dont penalize the people of pa who need cost effective electricity for it, the removal of Rate Caps is going to be harsh enough in pa without california dingbats messing with federal energy policy. Why doesn't obama use some charm with the electric companies to see that they upgrade plants to cut pollution, with a mix of tax-breaks and fines. I sure hope the republicans can stop this one. All this will do is make life more expensive and give companies more of a reason to send jobs to other countries.

I have a question about this whole mess. Where were Boehner & all the other hero`s in both parties every time the energy B.S. was going on for the last few decades, how many of them were making money off of it just feeding their on greed & doing nothing for the people? I can still remember waiting in line for gas decades ago & hearing all the promises that if elected this will never happen again. Think about that before calling someone a hero. I personally off the top of my head think of any politician of past or present that I would call a hero for what hes done once elected.

It is getting better every day!

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribun ... _06_24.asp