We need "Change" alright, A Third Political Party

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Re: We need "Change" alright, A Third Political Party

PostBy: Complete Heat On: Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:10 pm

Barney,

I am a big fan of American History, and have loads of respect for the Founding Fathers of this once great nation, and it saddens me to watch it get taken apart by thieves. At some point, in the not too far future, the people who make this country run will take back control when they realize they have been bamboozled by the politicians. My only fear is that we lose the principles upon which this country was founded upon, because once a revolution begins, there are no guarantees on the outcome.

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Re: We need "Change" alright, A Third Political Party

PostBy: BigBarney On: Sat Jul 04, 2009 10:13 pm

You always know that all things on earth overshoot both up and down and this will be

no different,so expect the expected.Our freedom is worth fighting for,but not too

many Americans would be willing to give their all for the future of our country especially

in this day and age,most want to sit back and let someone else do the heavy work.


Happy 4th of July!!!!! even though a little late



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Re: We need "Change" alright, A Third Political Party

PostBy: Coal Joe On: Sun Jul 05, 2009 6:53 am

Pure and Simple. Outlaw Lobbyists Keep the pay for access out of our country. :yearight:
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Re: We need "Change" alright, A Third Political Party

PostBy: stovepipemike On: Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:55 pm

Just the other day on television a mature young woman on the street was asked by a celebrity how many stars were on the flag [stars and stripes] on a pole in the background.She said [paraphrased here],I don't know, I can't count them because the breeze is too much right now. That is precisely why we are in the state we are in presently. Rome is burning, Caesar is fiddling and the average Jane and Joe thinks the smell of wood smoke is because it is time for hot dogs and burgers . !!!!!!!!!!!! Enough said.
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Re: We need "Change" alright, A Third Political Party

PostBy: Complete Heat On: Sat Aug 01, 2009 12:44 pm

What is interesting is that Congressman that have a D at the end of their title are finding a lot of hostility directed at them when they come back home. I think the Obama Administration is just what this country needed to motivate people to get involved in politics. I believe it is too little too late, and we will see an economic crash followed by a cleaning out of the halls of congress and the Judicial branch.
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Re: We need "Change" alright, A Third Political Party

PostBy: Rex On: Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:47 pm

Richard S. wrote:Firstly as most of you know my views side with the Republicans mostly but that is the core Republican values of less taxes, less government and more freedom. The Democrats certainly have some issues they champion I side with. Having said that I firmly believe that the majority of Americans are just like me with leanings to one side or the other but for the most part are sitting on a fence in the middle which is why we need a third party to represent our interests. The current system is so corrupt it is beyond repair with these two parties in power.

After watching the six hour fiasco that unfolded with the passing of the Energy Bill this past week I've come to the conclusion that both the Democrat and Republican party are now so far gone they are all but useless. For starters we have 1200 page bill rammed through with a 300 page amendment dropped into it at 3AM the day before it's to be voted on. How many Democrats do you think read all 300 pages before it was voted on? I'm only using the Democrats as an example as this would have happened if the Republicans were in power as well. They are both equally bad playing politics when they should be representing our interests. As best I can tell whether your Democrat or Republican most believe this to be very bad legislation. "We the people" don't want it no matter which side of the aisle your on and again if this was a Republican bill it would be the same thing.

The debate itself was a joke. I've been following both the global warming legislation, estimates and studies both pro and con devouring just about anything I can lay my hands on. Both parties during this debate were misrepresenting or outright lying about many of the facts and figures they presented. My only other conclusion could be they have no clue and if that is the case we are really in a world of trouble.

BOTH of these parties are destroying this great nation and it needs to stop. They both pander to the special interests while "We the People" get a crowbar stuck up our ass. I'm *censored* and rightly so as should every other American. If this isn't stopped I really fear for the well being of this country and what it will become.


Why not look into the Constitution Party, the 3rd largest political party as an option? I sure have and like what I see. Constitution Party
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Re: We need "Change" alright, A Third Political Party

PostBy: jpete On: Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:55 pm

I voted Chuck Baldwin last time around. And a friend of mine is the Constitution Party candidate for the 16th district in PA.

The reality is, as he was told at a debate by the moderator, "The people don't care about the Constitution. It's over their heads. What SPECIFICALLY are you going to do FOR THEM"
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Re: We need "Change" alright, A Third Political Party

PostBy: KLook On: Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:16 pm

Jpete, I read Thomas Paine's common sense which was put in the back of Glen Beck's common sense. I agree with you 100% and the statement by the moderator is the sad, sad case in this country.

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Re: We need "Change" alright, A Third Political Party

PostBy: Rex On: Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:21 pm

jpete wrote:I voted Chuck Baldwin last time around. And a friend of mine is the Constitution Party candidate for the 16th district in PA.

The reality is, as he was told at a debate by the moderator, "The people don't care about the Constitution. It's over their heads. What SPECIFICALLY are you going to do FOR THEM"


The moderator's reality is wrong. I'm part of the We The People who still believes in the Constitution. Maybe there are others like me :)
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Re: We need "Change" alright, A Third Political Party

PostBy: TimV On: Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:33 pm

You have it layed out pretty well . Your exactly right. Its so one sided and rigged they control eveything no matter who they let us think we vote in.
We do need a third party .....One that actually represents the common you and me folks and not just the big money whether its from huge corporations or some billionaire.
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Re: We need "Change" alright, A Third Political Party

PostBy: KLook On: Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:34 pm

Right there with you Rex, but it needs to be taught in schools again to regain the younger generations. It is to late my generation but you have to look to the future. That is what the liberals have been doing for years. Conseratives have figured this out but then if they get in control it will go to far the other way.

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Re: We need "Change" alright, A Third Political Party

PostBy: jpete On: Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:28 pm

KLook wrote:Right there with you Rex, but it needs to be taught in schools again to regain the younger generations. It is to late my generation but you have to look to the future. That is what the liberals have been doing for years. Conseratives have figured this out but then if they get in control it will go to far the other way.

Kevin


Ah! But WHO decides what the little kiddies are taught?

The Department of Education of course! Another fine Orwellian name. The fact is, US test score have plummeted since it's inception. And it doesn't matter if it's an R or D administration. "The song remains the same" now doesn't it?
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Re: We need "Change" alright, A Third Political Party

PostBy: KLook On: Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:33 pm

Correct Jpete. And that is why the libs hate home schooling so much. And the "educators" come up with all kinds of reasons that it is bad because it makes them look bad when homeschoolers excell. Controlling the future generations by rewriting history or its perception or not teaching it at all has been used forever by bad governments. Just think, the holocaust never happened!

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Re: We need "Change" alright, A Third Political Party

PostBy: mikeandgerry On: Fri Sep 25, 2009 1:14 am

There is no third party.

People are either left wingers or right wingers in varying degrees.

Someone please describe what a third party could be like and what its platform would entail. Are we talking Ross Perot? Jon Andersen? or like some personality more radical?

Are we talking a party that is fiscally conservative and socially liberal? I doubt that is the answer. For those who haven't noticed, fiscal conservatism didn't cause all the changes we have experienced in the last 150 years, liberal social policies did!

Pick a party and get active.
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Re: We need "Change" alright, A Third Political Party

PostBy: djackman On: Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:59 pm

mikeandgerry wrote:For those who haven't noticed, fiscal conservatism didn't cause all the changes we have experienced in the last 150 years, liberal social policies did!


The problem is that both parties are fiscally liberal, they only differ on where they throw the tax money.

A "socially liberal" platform means keep the govm't out of your private life, not providing a handout.
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