I'll get things started

Re: I'll get things started

PostBy: jpete On: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:48 pm

Dang it Pocono! Now I have to hate you twice!

Once for proving me wrong and twice for making more work for me! ;)

I was going to take a picture so I took the air cleaner off and started looking at it. I was looking for a butterfly like an automotive choke but it's a slide like a shutter.

I thought the lever was a cast in rib. :D
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Re: I'll get things started

PostBy: SMITTY On: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:50 pm

Remove the air cleaner assembly & look at the butterfly -- there will be a shaft running thru the center of it -- on one end or the other, there should be a linkage of some sort. This will lead to wherever the lever is to activate the choke. Try moving the butterfly with your finger -- if you can see straight down the carburetor bore, it's open -- choke off. I know of no engine that does not have a choke or enrichener system.

A 2-stroke should start in no more than 3 pulls. If not, then either the fuel isn't getting to the carb ( which is what it sounds like ) or there is a weak spark -- or low compression......unlikely on a new machine, but possible considering the quality of some items I've purchased at big box stores. Could be as simple as a pinhole in the primer system. If just a tiny bit of air gets in there, it won't do it's job -- which is to fill the carburetor with fuel. Another factor could be the fuel/oil mixture. Leaner is better, contrary to popular belief (within reason). I mix everything at 50 - 55:1 with a good synthetic oil. They run soooo much better! Also, if there is an adjustment on the carb ( usually restricted with a cap ), it helps starting to turn them out about 1/4 to 1/2 turn. They set them up so lean that they barely run, all in the name of clean air... :roll:

I'll take a 2-stroke any day over a 4-stroke -- they are lighter (important for something you have to carry around), more powerful for a given size, & easier to start (when everything is working properly).


Well I just typed all this & it looks like you found it!
SMITTY
 
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Re: I'll get things started

PostBy: jpete On: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:55 pm

Sorry Smitty. :D

I've had this POS for like 6 years and cursed it's existence the whole time. :D

The throttle is a rotary type like a snowmobile or similar. The choke is built into the air cleaner housing and is just a teardrop shaped piece that pivots over the carb mouth.
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Re: I'll get things started

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:55 pm

dang...... i got thru!!!! the skull is only so thick!!!!! :D
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Re: I'll get things started

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:57 pm

oh by the way i just dld the manual for it and it actually calls it a cold weather assist lever....... :P
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Re: I'll get things started

PostBy: jpete On: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:58 pm

Poconoeagle wrote:dang...... i got thru!!!! the skull is only so thick!!!!! :D


Us Swedes are known for skull thickness! :D
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Re: I'll get things started

PostBy: jpete On: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:58 pm

Poconoeagle wrote:oh by the way i just dld the manual for it and it actually calls it a cold weather assist lever....... :P


I don't want to run the thing in the summer. I CERTAINLY don't want to trim the lawn with 4 feet of snow on the ground! :D
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Re: I'll get things started

PostBy: SMITTY On: Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:00 pm

I know exactly what you're talking about -- I just got an aold leaf-blower with a similar system running for a buddy of mine. He gave it to me to get running........ he says it just won't start. he didn't tell me that it was from '92 & hasn't been used since "98!! :lol: He was laughing when I sent him a cell-phone pic of me cleaning my driveway. He was testing me...

So that carb has a slide? The cable comes down thru top of carb & when you hit the throttle, it lifts it upward & you can see a needle? (thicker than a needle -- more like a nail). that's unusual for lawn equipment -- usually see those in dirtbikes.
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Re: I'll get things started

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:01 pm

yeah but us poles are equally thick.... just better looking!! :lol:
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Re: I'll get things started

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:03 pm

page 10 figure 23..... those darn operators manuals !! glad you will smile every time you start it now!!
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Re: I'll get things started

PostBy: jpete On: Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:04 pm

SMITTY wrote:I know exactly what you're talking about -- I just got an aold leaf-blower with a similar system running for a buddy of mine. He gave it to me to get running........ he says it just won't start. he didn't tell me that it was from '92 & hasn't been used since "98!! :lol: He was laughing when I sent him a cell-phone pic of me cleaning my driveway. He was testing me...

So that carb has a slide? The cable comes down thru top of carb & when you hit the throttle, it lifts it upward & you can see a needle? (thicker than a needle -- more like a nail). that's unusual for lawn equipment -- usually see those in dirtbikes.




Uhhh, something like that. :)

It's like a barrel that has a cutout on it. When you pull the trigger, it spins the barrel and exposes the carb throat.

I only said snowmobile because a friends dad up in Maine owned a snowmobile shop and that's the first and only time I ever saw something like that.
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Re: I'll get things started

PostBy: jpete On: Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:06 pm

Poconoeagle wrote: glad you will smile every time you start it now!!



NO! I won't! I can't use the old "darn trimmer won't start again!" excuse with the wife anymore! :D
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Re: I'll get things started

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:10 pm

Well actually tho.... you can teach her just how easy it is to start and operate????

Since your swedish, and she can wear a bikini........ it Might happen???????? :roll:
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Re: I'll get things started

PostBy: jpete On: Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:12 pm

That probably wouldn't take a whole lot of convincing with my wife. ;) :D
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Re: I'll get things started

PostBy: SMITTY On: Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:13 pm

jpete wrote:Uhhh, something like that. :)

It's like a barrel that has a cutout on it. When you pull the trigger, it spins the barrel and exposes the carb throat.

I only said snowmobile because a friends dad up in Maine owned a snowmobile shop and that's the first and only time I ever saw something like that.



Yep, snowmobiles have a slide (at least the 2-stroke ones do) - but they go up & down ... not spin. I've never seen one on a weedwhacker. That's good though -- more power! 8-) Plus you can raise & lower the clip on the needle to fine tune...... but it sounds like you've had enough of working on this thing... :lol:
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