Indoor coal bin - moisture control?

Indoor coal bin - moisture control?

PostBy: jfgovern On: Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:31 pm

In discussing my plans for an indoor (basement) coal bin with my installer he mentioned that regardless of the time of year of purchase coal often carries a lot of water with it. He is in the process of creating a pan for another customer (similar to the tin pan that is placed underneath an upper-floor installed hot-water heater or washing machine). I'm wondering if I should line the sides of the bin with a membrane of some sort (they are pressure-treated plywood), and create a pan on the bottom to retain water. What's been your experience? What ideas do you have? I'm wondering if it's that much of an issue if I buy in the middle of August...
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Re: Indoor coal bin - moisture control?

PostBy: 009to090 On: Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:48 pm

Does the slab have a drain in it? If water drains out of the coal, will it head towards the drain Ok?
Or, you could use Construction Glue (Liquid Nails) underneath your pressure-treated sole-plate. That way, you have a couple inches of "Wet area" under the dry coal.
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Re: Indoor coal bin - moisture control?

PostBy: jfgovern On: Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:56 pm

Hmmm- interesting thought about the liquid nails. There's no drain in the floor; the house has received radon-abatement treatment, so open holes in the floor would be less than desirable. I think I'll ask my installer about the pan he's building for another customer - curious to hear what he's doing. Thanks for the ideas!
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Re: Indoor coal bin - moisture control?

PostBy: 2001Sierra On: Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:45 pm

Myself and some freinds purchased a trailer load of Kimmel rice. Water is leaking out of the bags big time, and the barn we are storing it in is showing signs of the moisture. They do this to keep the dust down, so I would build a bin to allow for the "leakage". I store mine outside in the woods and have a 2 year supply so I am anticipating the moisture will dissapate over time.
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Re: Indoor coal bin - moisture control?

PostBy: Richard S. On: Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:36 am

Depends on the type of coal, time of the year and if it's fresh washed or off the pile. I've seen nut coal almost bone dry after a 1 hour journey on really hot days. Be sure the dealer lifts the truck an lets it drain for a few minutes. Most of the water will be in the bottom of the truck. Matter of fact a lot of it ends up on the road as you travel with all the hills around here. Unless you are really close to the breaker it's usually going to be just really damp.
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Re: Indoor coal bin - moisture control?

PostBy: jfgovern On: Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:06 pm

Well, I received 6 ton last week and the coal was oily but not really all that wet - dump truck was tilted back for a good couple of minutes before the chute was installed and no water ran out of the bed, so I have to believe that there isn't too much water in the bottom of the bin. Time of year / luck of the draw, I suppose! Thanks again for all of the insight guys. I appreciate the advice.
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Re: Indoor coal bin - moisture control?

PostBy: WNY On: Mon Aug 24, 2009 7:49 am

I have bin lined with 6 mil poly plastic to keep any liquids from oozing onto the floor. usually when it get down really far, it will evaporate.
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Re: Indoor coal bin - moisture control?

PostBy: jfgovern On: Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:11 pm

Did you staple it to the walls and just drape it across the floor? Wondering how well it's holding-up to the sharp edges of the coal?
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