Fossil Fuel Survialist Guide for the Sane: Part 1 Common BS

Funny how a debunking of the evils of fossil fuels has turned into a debate about asthma.

Interesting thread. BTW I headed the clinical team that developed many anti-asthma treatments so let me poke in a few thoughts. It is outside the scope of this thread to discuss the four types of asthma but you are right it can be one of a million things. However, just to add fuel to the flames (sorry about the pun), one the leading causes of bronchial irritation in the NE where we burn 80% of the nations heating oil is mercury and that my friends comes from heating oil not coal. So you went to CA and were fine --- duhhh ----- no HO.

http://www.nyc.gov/html/planyc2030/html ... heat.shtml

So these idiots know that you can't get the mercury out so they are going to burn biodiesel in the schools $uckin idiots - excuse my French.

OMG, that would mean premium anthracite coal was a fuel of choice. Another red herring is antimony in the ash. So how much ash was thrown on tomatoes in Pittston over the last century without problems? That my friends is how epidemiology is supposed to be done. Whoops a black car has just pulled up outside they traced my IP. Come visit me wherever they throw coal lovers.

PS and don't get me started about formaldehyde in the atmosphere from all that wood and pellets. Formaldehyde is a known carcinogen

Thank you Belin and Richard for bringing common sense to this issue. If every non- leftist would spend 2 minutes a day educating the Sheep we could save our country.
Josh

Everyone should read the book, "The Deep Hot Biosphere" by Thomas Gold. It will give you a new prospective on so-called "fossil fuels". Fossil fuels are another government sham to rob the sheople.

traderfjp wrote:Should we all start burning bit?

Why not??? I am!

Some of the other things that the fascist liberals won't tell you is that CO2 has a global warming potential that is minuscule in comparison to methane. Every day, vast quantities of methane are released from swamps and other anaerobic digestion of plant matter occurring in nature - including billions of people and animals. As world population increases, so does methane output. I love beer, brats, and sauerkraut so I'm doing my part.

As for "acid rain" sulfur and other pollutants, Mother Nature takes care of that in greater proportions than we could ever generate through volcanic action. Volcanoes produce enormous quantities of sulfur compounds and other toxic gasses, along with ash (particulates) that circulate around the globe.

I certainly don't propose we go back to the days when Pittsburgh was obscured in a cloud of coal smoke and Gary, Indiana smelled worse than it does now. Nor do I propose we drive the equivalent of '65 Dodge Darts and put 2-stroke Detroits back in every Kenworth. Modern engines are far more powerful, efficient, long-lasting, and produce only a few percent of the emissions level of that '65 Dart. Modern coal power plants likewise produce only a fraction of the pollution that the old uncontrolled coal plants did.

We need to be responsible and utilize the best technology we can WITHIN REASON to use the energy sources we currently have. Illinois has huge coal reserves. Why would I send my money over to a bunch of Arabs who basically want me to die? Screw them. I'm going to send my money to a hard workin' Joe downstate who's trying to put food on his table. I drive a diesel VW. Sure, it pollutes a tiny bit more than a gas car, but at 50 mpg, my pollution PER MILE is a fraction of that 12 mpg crack smoke filled Escalade cruisin' da hood.

Richard isn't saying that we should all screw over the environment as egregiously as possible. I think we've already done that (Love Canal, etc). But right now, the political Left Wing wackos are running amok and sucking everyone else along with them in creating unreasonable, impractical, self-promoting and unsubstantiated laws and regulations. Ethanol? Most people have figured it out as a joke, yet the subsidies continue. Burn the corn for heat, feed it to cows and make me a steak, or turn it into BOURBON so I can drink it!

The incandescent lamp thread on here is just another wacko enviro-Nazi sham forced upon us by the pinko commie Liberals because they must save everyone from themselves - we are all just too stupid to make our own decisions.

I wish our government would worry more about the things that are REALLY going to wreck our society like the BANKRUPTCY OF AMERICA and the fact that you cannot have a Gross Domestic Product if you don't actually PRODUCE anything!! Sorry, service sector jobs aren't production jobs. They don't make anything. Neither does any of the "finance" sector. Low paying service jobs do not produce any tax revenue and likely COST money because that mother of 3 working at Wal-Mart is on food stamps, medicare, and whatever other government handouts are available so she can scrape by on $10/hr.

We only have one Earth, and we need to treat her responsibly since we can't go anywhere else if we screw it up. But it needs to be a balanced, shared effort that uses facts and realistic expectations as it's basis rather than sensationalized drama, junk science and self-serving political agendas.

well said europachris

I'm liberal on most issues (don't belong to a political party though), and believe in global warming. The fact remains however, that as a widowI living in an old 2800 sq. ft. house it costs me a fortune to heat it every season and my oil bills are killing me. The cost just keeps rising. My husband was renovating it when he died and selling it isn't yet an option since it still needs some work. I refuse to struggle to pay my bills because of it and I will no longer be kept over a barrel - I'm installing a coal burning stove. If the environmentalists don't like it, it's too bad! Show me a cheap, "non-polluting" way to heat my house!!