Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: jeromemsn On: Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:04 pm

"Media Vetting" Lisa?????? Wow they have power beyond what I thought they had. Vetting is not done by the media if it was then we would have a "Rupert" as a President.....

President Obama has not added anything to the deficet....Now he has paid a lot of bills that Bush and the crew began. Lisa if things worked the way you describe, That the measure of a President begins on the sworn in day, Then all Presidents should subscribe to that. All bills of a President are payable on the expiration date of said President.....Bush go pay that damn tab!!!!! I like this idea!!!!!
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Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: jpete On: Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:16 pm

jeromemsn wrote:"Media Vetting" Lisa?????? Wow they have power beyond what I thought they had. Vetting is not done by the media if it was then we would have a "Rupert" as a President.....

President Obama has not added anything to the deficet....Now he has paid a lot of bills that Bush and the crew began. Lisa if things worked the way you describe, That the measure of a President begins on the sworn in day, Then all Presidents should subscribe to that. All bills of a President are payable on the expiration date of said President.....Bush go pay that damn tab!!!!! I like this idea!!!!!


That was the original intent. It is immoral and might I add "taxation without representation" to leave a debt for the succeeding generation.
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Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: jpete On: Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:19 pm

samhill wrote:I should know better but here goes, now I`m not looking up figures its all just pulled out of the air. If we were in say two billion dollars of debt & the interest rate was growing faster than what you were making even without having to run a country or business or whatever perspective you want, just how is that original debt your fault? It does not vaporize when someone else comes into office.


That would only be true if the current administration had spent ZERO dollars and we know that isn't true. I'm not sure if you've been paying attention, but there's this whole argument going on right now about raising the debt limit and spending more or cutting spending and not raising the limit. And your side isn't the one arguing holding the line on the debt limit.
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Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: lowfog01 On: Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:27 pm

jeromemsn wrote: President Obama has not added anything to the deficet....


Maybe in your alternate reality but in the world I live it it can be easily documented from a variety sources that Obama has indeed added to the deficit. Notice the article from CBS news - they are hardly a hotbed of right wing propaganda now are they? Lisa

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/national-de ... mas-watch/
http://www.cnsnews.com/node/72404

http://www.newsmax.com/Limbaugh/deficit-obama-budget/2011/03/22/id/390284
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.
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Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: Blackrocks On: Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:05 pm

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Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: Blackrocks On: Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:10 pm

Lisa i have tried several times to answer your last post directed at me in "5 dollar gas" but i seem to be blocked from doing so by whom i do not know. go figure huh. i wonder who has the power to do that? can anyone say CENSORSHIP?
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Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: rberq On: Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:24 pm

coalkirk wrote:Why would he not release it?

For amusement. Because it keeps a bunch of people spinning their wheels with conspiracy theories.

lowfog01 wrote:What the does that fact that he is Black man have to do with any of this?

It's not just his color. His ears are funny, too. No wonder you don't believe he is an American.
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Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: jeromemsn On: Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:05 pm

Lisa if the last Bush Administration would of been dealing straight and not from the bottom of the deck, then he would of had almost all of the current deficit on his shoulders not on the current administration....Yes you bet President Obama has had to spend his way out of the GD mess that Bush and the oil cronies made...Those *astards! If he didn't spend the money I would hate to think what country would of came over here and said, "Yep it's ours now" and not one other country would of stopped them! The one good thing was that it really did hit the fan a bit sooner than Bush thought it would, oops, he thought he would get away with it but he didn't!!! If Obama wouldn't of had to open the flood gates to fill the financial money pit then President Obama would of been walking on water...as of now he is still only treading it. I wish that there were tracers on all government money to show who the real *uckup was and is....Media as vetters....sheesh, where do you come up with this stuff...What in the world is wrong with you...we all lived through the current state of affairs, along with President Obama winning the election. Bush won the election and had to go to court and on and on and on, remember. Vetting by the media....sheesh!
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Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: lowfog01 On: Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:27 pm

jeromemsn wrote:Lisa if the last Bush Administration would of been dealing straight and not from the bottom of the deck, then he would of had almost all of the current deficit on his shoulders not on the current administration....Yes you bet President Obama has had to spend his way out of the GD mess that Bush and the oil cronies made...Those *astards! If he didn't spend the money I would hate to think what country would of came over here and said, "Yep it's ours now" and not one other country would of stopped them! The one good thing was that it really did hit the fan a bit sooner than Bush thought it would, oops, he thought he would get away with it but he didn't!!! If Obama wouldn't of had to open the flood gates to fill the financial money pit then President Obama would of been walking on water...as of now he is still only treading it. I wish that there were tracers on all government money to show who the real *uckup was and is....Media as vetters....sheesh, where do you come up with this stuff...What in the world is wrong with you...we all lived through the current state of affairs, along with President Obama winning the election. Bush won the election and had to go to court and on and on and on, remember. Vetting by the media....sheesh!


Spin it anyway you need to rationalize in your mind the actions of the bozo we have in the Office of the President right now. It still won't change the fact that you said "President Obama has not added anything to the deficient.... " when in reality he and he alone has tripled the deficient in the 2 years he has been in office and I can document it. See my previous post. It also won't change the fact that it is the Media's job to vet the political candidates of this country . It has been since the Constitution was passed. That's why Freedom of the Press is in Amendment I. It was and is considered vital to the nation to have an independent press that would keep politicians honest. The current Mainstream Media has sold us down the river. Accept it or not, there's not much else to say about it. Lisa
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Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: lowfog01 On: Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:42 pm

lowfog01 wrote:What the does that fact that he is Black man have to do with any of this?


rberq wrote:It's not just his color. His ears are funny, too. No wonder you don't believe he is an American.


What about his color or his ears give you a problem? My problem is with his politics and I can tell you exactly why I have a problem with him and his politics. The man is an unapologetic socialist and there is empirical data that suggests that he may not be an natural born citizen of the United States. Given that he is the leader of the one remaining super power I think it's worth asking for clarification on the matter. That seems like a simple enough request - they asked John McCain for the same clarification and guess what - he provided it without question. Obama has been hoping this would all go away overtime, kind of like how he knew that we would grow to love Obamacare over time. Guess what, the questions are only getting louder and the majority of us still hate Obamacare. Lisa
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Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: rberq On: Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:36 pm

lowfog01 wrote:
lowfog01 wrote:What the does that fact that he is Black man have to do with any of this?


rberq wrote:It's not just his color. His ears are funny, too. No wonder you don't believe he is an American.


What about his color or his ears give you a problem?

Well, Lisa, it was said in jest, but I really wonder where you are coming from.... The last time the country was solvent was when Clinton was president. As jeromemsn reminded us, Obama was handed two wars and a totally f*cked up economy. For this both political parties are to blame, and President Bush participated enthusiastically in digging the hole deeper. And yet you have had nothing but complaints about Obama, from the day he was elected, and you seem to think if we throw him out the country will suddenly be saved by those same forces that got us into all this trouble. So I have to wonder, is it really his color that you object to? You get all excited with your denials whenever anyone implies you are not color blind, but your single-minded irrational attacks make me say, with Shakespeare, "The lady doth protest too much, methinks."
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Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: jpete On: Wed Apr 06, 2011 7:08 pm

The last time the country was solvent was when Clinton was president.
:no2:

You're going to have to go back a little further than that. Try Andrew Jackson.

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Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: lowfog01 On: Wed Apr 06, 2011 7:09 pm

rberq wrote:
lowfog01 wrote:
lowfog01 wrote:What the does that fact that he is Black man have to do with any of this?


rberq wrote:It's not just his color. His ears are funny, too. No wonder you don't believe he is an American.


What about his color or his ears give you a problem?

Well, Lisa, it was said in jest, but I really wonder where you are coming from.... The last time the country was solvent was when Clinton was president. As jeromemsn reminded us, Obama was handed two wars and a totally f*cked up economy. For this both political parties are to blame, and President Bush participated enthusiastically in digging the hole deeper. And yet you have had nothing but complaints about Obama, from the day he was elected, and you seem to think if we throw him out the country will suddenly be saved by those same forces that got us into all this trouble. So I have to wonder, is it really his color that you object to? You get all excited with your denials whenever anyone implies you are not color blind, but your single-minded irrational attacks make me say, with Shakespeare, "The lady doth protest too much, methinks."


Strangely enough, I've never brought up Obama's race other to ask why you'll keep bringing it up. If doesn't matter what I say because you've already decided that since I am a vocal Conservative I must be racist. You ignore that for every argument I've presented to counter Obama's policy attempts to "fundamentally transform America" I have backed it up with facts from bona fide and varied sources; the NY Times, The Washington Post, The Wall Street Journal, the Obama Adminstration and government agencies to name a few. There has not been one "irrational attack" on Obama the man from me. You don't really have a response that discredits my facts so you've decided I'm a racist. Why not? That ends all the discussion doesn't it. If I'm out to get Obama because of the color of his skin that explains it all. Sorry, I'll go ahead exposing Obama's socialistic agenda just as I would with any other Democratic/Liberal/Progressive Politician of any color or creed that I can document as harmful for America. You can think what you will. Lisa
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Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: jeromemsn On: Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:04 pm

Lisa your not, "NOT" a conservative. A conservative would not ask the country for anything. A conservative would be asking what they could do for there country....Hmm who said that??? It's funny how what you don't like you want the government to step in and take care of it. Sounds Socialist to me....
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Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: jpete On: Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:23 pm

jeromemsn wrote: A conservative would be asking what they could do for there country....Hmm who said that???...


And look how that turned out....
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