Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: jeromemsn On: Tue May 10, 2011 8:06 pm

freetown fred wrote:You are obviously not part of the 20% of Dems that are not real thrilled with BO. His transparency claim is a joke. Are you familiar with the story about The little boy that cried wolf? It is about someone that proclaims certain facts/ situations that prove to be false and people just stop listening sooo, when a REAL situation arises that needs serious attention, nobody believes it is true. The little boy is bewildered that the people don't come to his aid. If this is a laughing matter to you, I'm missing the humor. Being a trained soldier, I will always obey the orders of the President of this great Country. But I will not be blind & deaf to the reality of an individuals incompetence or as it were, the mistake of falling for their BS. It has come down to the blind leading the blind. Even if one outstanding task is performed, it does not outweigh the aforementioned incompetence. It is quite clear even on a site of this size that there are not many people being bamboozled. BUT, there are always a few, no matter how obvious the incompetence is.



You should heed these words...they will make you rest easy. Lots of people crying wolf have you noticed...no "proof" but a lot of wolf!!!!! there are only a few that even get involved with these discussions or haven't you noticed.
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Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: freetown fred On: Tue May 10, 2011 8:31 pm

Oh yea, I've noticed & I constantly find you at the forefront-you know, I do a lot of reasearch on different claims that are made & as you know there are thousands of them out there in the cyberworld. Me??? I probably spend way to much time on the farm out of necessity. I'm around critters 24/7 & I've gotten real good on things like body language & facial expressions. Aside from all the cyberbabble on BO. I'll tell you flat out--he is not an honorable or trustworthy man & will turn in a heartbeat--can I refer you to many sites to confirm this?? NO--can I name names of people in agreement on my feelings & thoughts?? NO--just a bunch of silly old farmers that live in my area--I don't know what to tell you my friend except--be careful what you wish for ;)
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Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: Blackrocks On: Wed May 11, 2011 10:53 am

Results from latest Associated Press GfK Poll
69% say Obama will keep America Safe from harm
65% say he is a strong leader
63% have a favorable view of him
60% gave an overall job approval rateing
Over 50% say Obama deserves to be elected again

Poll was taken May 5-9
margin of error 4.2%

OBAMA in 20012

Rick
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Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: franco b On: Wed May 11, 2011 1:48 pm

freetown fred wrote:Oh yea, I've noticed & I constantly find you at the forefront-you know, I do a lot of reasearch on different claims that are made & as you know there are thousands of them out there in the cyberworld. Me??? I probably spend way to much time on the farm out of necessity. I'm around critters 24/7 & I've gotten real good on things like body language & facial expressions. Aside from all the cyberbabble on BO. I'll tell you flat out--he is not an honorable or trustworthy man & will turn in a heartbeat--can I refer you to many sites to confirm this?? NO--can I name names of people in agreement on my feelings & thoughts?? NO--just a bunch of silly old farmers that live in my area--I don't know what to tell you my friend except--be careful what you wish for ;)


I don't know what you are complaining about. He promised transparency and look how easy it is to see through him.
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Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: freetown fred On: Wed May 11, 2011 4:05 pm

:clap: toothy outstanding my friend ;)
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Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: lowfog01 On: Wed May 11, 2011 5:49 pm

Blackrocks wrote:Results from latest Associated Press GfK Poll
69% say Obama will keep America Safe from harm
65% say he is a strong leader
63% have a favorable view of him
60% gave an overall job approval rateing
Over 50% say Obama deserves to be elected again

Poll was taken May 5-9
margin of error 4.2%

OBAMA in 20012

Rick



Sorry to burst your bubble but it seems that the outcome of a poll depends on who you ask to participate. Check it out -http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/266932/latest-ap-poll-sample-skews-democrats-17-points. Imagine that. Lisa
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Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: rberq On: Wed May 11, 2011 7:20 pm

freetown fred wrote:I probably spend way to much time on the farm out of necessity. I'm around critters 24/7 & I've gotten real good on things like body language & facial expressions ... I'll tell you flat out--he is not an honorable or trustworthy man.

Fred, that is a fascinating observation about body language and facial expressions. Oliver Sacks, well-known psychiatrist and writer, did a piece about brain-damaged patients who could not understand or use spoken language, and relied instead on non-verbal cues. Watching a speech by a former president, we won't say which former actor it was, they laughed their heads off with ridicule because they could tell he was not sincere. So perhaps you are on to something. I wish Sacks would take the same set of patients and expose them to a speech by President Obama, and see how they react.
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Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Wed May 11, 2011 8:36 pm

Blackrocks wrote:Results from latest Associated Press GfK Poll
69% say Obama will keep America Safe from harm
65% say he is a strong leader
63% have a favorable view of him
60% gave an overall job approval rateing
Over 50% say Obama deserves to be elected again

Poll was taken May 5-9
margin of error 4.2%

OBAMA in 20012

Rick

we need these in 2 threads ;) so this poll was taken in england or france :?: :shock: it sure wasnt taken roun here or with anyone i come into contact with 8-)
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Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: freetown fred On: Wed May 11, 2011 9:07 pm

In all seriousness ;) there was some dude named Gestalt that was always going on about the here & now--that made sense to me--maybe he was a farmer too??? but, there sure is enough brain damaged to go around without looking very far :o
rberq wrote:
freetown fred wrote:I probably spend way to much time on the farm out of necessity. I'm around critters 24/7 & I've gotten real good on things like body language & facial expressions ... I'll tell you flat out--he is not an honorable or trustworthy man.

Fred, that is a fascinating observation about body language and facial expressions. Oliver Sacks, well-known psychiatrist and writer, did a piece about brain-damaged patients who could not understand or use spoken language, and relied instead on non-verbal cues. Watching a speech by a former president, we won't say which former actor it was, they laughed their heads off with ridicule because they could tell he was not sincere. So perhaps you are on to something. I wish Sacks would take the same set of patients and expose them to a speech by President Obama, and see how they react.
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Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: Blackrocks On: Thu May 12, 2011 8:03 am

Well Lisa you did it again , not only did you use a quote from an ultra conservitive source but you only told half the truth. The actual numbers for the poll were :
Dem 46%
Rep 29%
Ind 4%
Undecided 18%
Now do the math --wait I'll do it for you ---it comes out to 46% Dem and 51% non Dem I don't see how that skewers the poll 17% towards the Dems Now can you imagine that ?
Sorry to burst YOUR bubble


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Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: lowfog01 On: Thu May 12, 2011 10:02 am

Blackrocks wrote:Well Lisa you did it again , not only did you use a quote from an ultra conservitive source but you only told half the truth. The actual numbers for the poll were :
Dem 46%
Rep 29%
Ind 4%
Undecided 18%
Now do the math --wait I'll do it for you ---it comes out to 46% Dem and 51% non Dem I don't see how that skewers the poll 17% towards the Dems Now can you imagine that ?
Sorry to burst YOUR bubble


Rick


Sorry, Rick, you are going to be waiting a long time as there's no math to do. Have you heard of GIGO - Garbage in, Garbage out? That's what the AP poll is and I'm not the only one saying so. There are none so blind as those that will not see. If you looked at anything other then the Main Stream Media you would know that the AP has long ago lost any credibility it had as an unbiased news source. You couldn't find anything more liberal if you wanted to. In using it as your source, you are doing the same thing you accuse me of. The fact of the matter is the AP poll is flawed and you know it or you should. 46% Dem to 29% Republican - tell me again how that is going to turn out to be an unbiased poll. In fact this country is split about equally between DEM and REP as can be seen in the last Presidential election. That hasn't changed and other, more accurate pollsters reflect that truth. Accept it or not, the AP poll is flawed and I'm not the only one saying that. Believe what you will. Lisa
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Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: freetown fred On: Thu May 12, 2011 10:12 am

As they always do, no matter the facts :(
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Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: samhill On: Thu May 12, 2011 10:56 am

All polls are bias, it all depends on who is doing them & for what reason. Even the politicians don`t put much stock in them by a 72 to 18 margin with 10% not giving a crap either way. That was a MO poll by the way. :P
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Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: lowfog01 On: Thu May 12, 2011 12:41 pm

samhill wrote:All polls are bias, it all depends on who is doing them & for what reason. Even the politicians don`t put much stock in them by a 72 to 18 margin with 10% not giving a crap either way. That was a MO poll by the way. :P


Sam, I'll agree with you on the "all polls are bias, it all depends on who is doing them & for what reason." However, I've never met a politician who didn't pay attention to them. Clinton's whole administration was built on what the polls said and it was the same with Bush. Obama is no different, either. With the amount of money involved in a campaign, you can't afford not to pay attention to the polls, no matter what the politicians are saying. Remember – How can you tell when a politician is lying? Answer: Anytime his mouth is open and his lips are moving. It doesn't matter which party either. Lisa
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Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: Blackrocks On: Thu May 12, 2011 2:42 pm

Lisa, please don't take offense but your recent posts seem to have taken on a tone of bitterness and i don't mean that as a snark i'm just curious as to the reason. i'm just guessing but could it be that you are starting to realize how much the Republicans lied to and are taking advantage of your tea partyers


Rick
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