Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: samhill On: Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:14 am

As I said before IMO its a dead horse, put it to rest & move on.
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Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:16 am

However, the fourteenth amendment automatically granted citizenship to people born within the United States (excluding Indians not taxed, who were granted citizenship in the 1920's) regardless of their parents' nationality http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalization_Act_of_1790 this was just the first act and was superceded five years later "Alarmed by the increasing numbers of immigrants. Congress passed the Naturalization Act of 1795 to extend the period of residence required"

this was changed 3 years later.....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalization_Act_of_1798

ya think there has been an issue with this?????? he's a bum for not fessing up his papers....period!

Like the Naturalization Acts of 1790 and 1795, this act also restricted citizenship to "free white persons".
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Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: samhill On: Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:24 am

I personally feel that the U.S. should bring back operation wet-back from the Ike days & deport everyone that is not a legal citizen. No questions asked if you are not legal you have no rights what-so-ever, the same with the prisoners, if you broke the laws of the land you cive up all rights until your dept is paid.
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Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:32 am

thats correct. A 97 year old gent came in the barber shop yesterday and I had a long interesting chat with him. He was sharp as a tack. I asked him who was the best president, in his opinion and his response was ..Truman. He showed me a picture of him from '45 when he was guarding him while in germany as a MP. This man spoke whith such a attitude of respect, even for the enemy, it makes obama and those of late seem like punks.

The planet earth has aged a mere eye-blink yet our modern society has come so far away from respect for each other its just a pathetic shame........

how dare he avoid what is a EQUALLY expected procedure. and now the difference with the health care for the masses vs the congress and higher-ups. come on! its time to go back-wards for sure :|
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Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: Richard S. On: Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:40 pm

ErikLaurence wrote:
Basically the birthers are practicing Joseph Goebbels famous dictum. “Repeat a lie often enough and the people will believe it!”


Ironic but I don't believe he ever actually uttered those words and if he did he stole them from Hitler.

All this was inspired by the principle--which is quite true in itself--that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.

—Adolf Hitler , Mein Kampf


Any other useless pieces of information anyone needs clarification on? :P People hate playing me in Trivial Pursuit. :lol:
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Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: jpete On: Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:47 pm

Saying something until it "becomes" true is as old as the hills. I can't remember the title but there is a poem about a man and he says at the end of every verse "I have said it thrice" so I must be saying the truth. As a listener, it's hard to know the difference. All of you who understand this should keep it in mind when you listen to politicians who tell you they are going fix something or mach something cheaper.
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Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Sun Jul 26, 2009 11:40 am

jpete wrote:But CONSTITUTIONALLY, and at least for a little while longer, that's still the rule book, a president must be NATURAL BORN which means he was born on US soil.

That would be native born, natural born is having citizenship as a birthright.

I don't care where he was born, it's where he resides now that I find disturbing.
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Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: traderfjp On: Sun Jul 26, 2009 11:47 am

Rush has been poisioning a few minds with this trash. Do you think the Republicans would let this issue die if there was a shred of truth to this lie. Even McCain said his birth certificate is genuine and this is a non-issue.
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Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: jpete On: Sun Jul 26, 2009 1:53 pm

traderfjp wrote:Rush has been poisioning a few minds with this trash. Do you think the Republicans would let this issue die if there was a shred of truth to this lie. Even McCain said his birth certificate is genuine and this is a non-issue.


R's and D's. Two wings of the same evil bird......

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Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: billw On: Sun Jul 26, 2009 8:44 pm

I usually stay out of political arguements because it's all opinion and nobody ever wins. If he didn't have a valid birth certificate the Clintons would have skinned his skinny ass and nailed his hide to a fence along with his 'phony' birth certificate right after he won the first primary.

What disturbs me more is the ability of those in control to keep the R vs D thing at a fever pitch while they are screwing us out of every penny they can. They don't even have the common courtesy to give us a 'reach around'. It's not about R vs D but the ultra rich against the rest of us. Divide and conquer is working very well for those really in charge of this country.
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Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: samhill On: Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:06 am

Well said, billw.
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Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: beemerboy On: Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:27 am

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-07-27-obama-hawaii_N.htm

Hawaii: Obama birth certificate is real
By Dan Nakaso, The Honolulu Advertiser

In an attempt to quash persistent rumors that President Obama was not born in Honolulu on Aug. 4, 1961, Hawaii's health director reiterated Monday afternoon that she has personally seen Obama's birth certificate in the Health Department's archives:

"I, Dr. Chiyome *FuLkino*, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago...."

In an e-mail, the Times reported, Klein wrote that CNN researchers determined that Obama's 1961 birth certificate no longer exists because Hawaiian officials had discarded paper documents in 2001 a claim denied Monday by Hawaiian health officials.

In 2001, Hawaii's paper documents were reproduced in electronic format, but "any paper data prior to that still exists," Health Department spokeswoman Janice Okubo said.

Okubo would not say where Obama's original birth certificate is but said, "We have backups for all of our backups."

A congressional resolution introduced by Rep. Neil Abercrombie, D-Hawaii, to commemorate the 50th anniversary of island statehood was delayed Monday.

The resolution includes a clause noting Obama's Hawaiian birthplace. The line "Whereas the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961" appeared to be construed by birthers as a thinly veiled attempt to get Congress to affirm Obama's U.S. citizenship, said Dave Helfert, an Abercrombie spokesman.

As the issue came to a vote Monday, Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., rose to object, saying there was not a quorum present. The House later voted 378-0 to approve the resolution. Bachmann voted in favor of the resolution.

Birthers denounce the notion that Obama was born in Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital in Honolulu on Aug. 4, 1961, despite court rulings and statements by *FuLkino* and Hawaii's Republican governor, Linda Lingle.


* - I had to deliberately mis-spell the Dr's name in order to make it past the censor (remove the L) . Otherwise it would be: Fukino .
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Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sun Aug 02, 2009 2:20 pm

Yikes... Looks like a BC from Kenya has surfaced:

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105764
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Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: Black_And_Blue On: Sun Aug 02, 2009 7:08 pm

Alan Keys is on it :

PostMotion for rogatory discovery to authenticate Kenyan Birth Certificate of Barack Hussein Obama
8:09-cv-00082-DOC-AN Ambassador Alan Keyes PhD, et al v. Barack Hussein Obama, et al
(ANx), DISCOVERY, MANADR

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT, CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA

Notice of Electronic Filing

The following transaction was entered by Taitz, Orly on 8/1/2009 at 10:08 PM PDT and filed on 8/1/2009

Case Name: Ambassador Alan Keyes PhD, et al v. Barack Hussein Obama, et al
Case Number: 8:09-cv-82
Filer: Alan Keyes PhD
Document Number: 34

Docket Text:
NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD. (Attachments: # (1) Appendix Photocopy of Obama’s birth certificate from Kenya)(Taitz, Orly)
8:09-cv-82 Notice has been electronically mailed to:

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA david.dejute@usdoj.gov
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Re: Ongoing questions about Obama's birth certificate

PostBy: tvb On: Sun Aug 02, 2009 9:59 pm

Richard S. wrote:Yikes... Looks like a BC from Kenya has surfaced:

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105764


LOL - the birthers ought to learn some history. The "Republic of Kenya" didn't exist until late 1964. It didn't even become independent until 1963. Orly Taitz really needs to get a life or at least become a better forger.
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