Getting Nasty out there

Re: Getting Nasty out there

PostBy: Paulie On: Tue Aug 11, 2009 1:10 pm

I do not believe the GOV should run health care, but it sure as heck should regulate it. We are getting raped. Either you
or your employer is paying the big bucks for less and less. Oh, and we also cover the "uninsured". We as a nation can no longer
sustain the current rate of spending and increases. I do not have a problem with the GOV becoming the ref. or making dead beats pay in.
As far as the town hall stuff, grandstanding.
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Re: Getting Nasty out there

PostBy: spc On: Sat Aug 22, 2009 6:13 pm

A marine speaks at town hall.

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Re: Getting Nasty out there

PostBy: tvb On: Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:27 pm

I wonder if Mr. Marine is willing to give up his government paid for and very efficiently gov't run VA benefits? He's right up there with the seniors demanding the govt keep their hands off their medicare. People sure are really *censored* stupid sometimes.
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Re: Getting Nasty out there

PostBy: jpete On: Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:05 am

Like the "benefits" at Walter Reed where you can scrape your own penicillin off the walls?

The VA is spotty at best. My wife is an EMT and deals with the local VA. It's the dirtiest, poorest run hospital she goes to.

Anything the federal government gets involved with turns to crap. Amtrak, USPS, and now you want medicine too?

No thanks. I'd rather die.
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Re: Getting Nasty out there

PostBy: samhill On: Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:15 am

I think the biggest problem with anything that the gov. runs is that its allowed to be headed with who-ever has the most gov. clout. Then there is no oversite as to whats going on there, while whoever is running it is extorting all they can & paying off the ones that put them there. Its called running a business the american way, take all that you can out while putting as little if any back in.
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Re: Getting Nasty out there

PostBy: jpete On: Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:19 am

Except until very recently, businesses were allowed to fail if they took too much out and didn't put any back in. Government just puts a gun to your head and steals your wallet.
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Re: Getting Nasty out there

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:22 am

I think the bottom line is those who actually do the work, do not follow the golden rule and perform thier job with pride and respect, instead they do as little as possible to steal as much as possible and get paid for doing so as much as possible and instead suck the golden egg.

its the bottom feeder people of this country who need to rise up and unite. remember this is the UNITED states. the low life foreign influx of waste case people have polluted the old ways. yes the gov is run by fat calf eaters but the grunts are usually slime non-us born slackers. :mad:
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Re: Getting Nasty out there

PostBy: SMITTY On: Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:41 am

I've seen people at jobs I've worked in the past (large, nationwide co's) fill their coolers with food & snacks that were supposed to be for everyone. They'd stand around until everyone left, then raid the cabinets, cleaning out every last piece of food & take it home with them! BTW, these folks were NOT born here, so I agree 100% with you Pocono!


As to the health care issue & all the stuff I just read about the protests, just think long & hard about this fact: WE ARE LESS THAN 1 YEAR IN WITH THIS ADMINISTRATION!!! He's done more to destroy the very fabric of this country ***in less than 300 days*** than anyone in history -- in fact, probably in the history of humanity!!! No one has destroyed any nation, let alone a world superpower in less than 1 year!!

If Obama keeps getting his way, THERE WON'T BE AN AMERICA LEFT IN 4 YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :chop:

The nastiness is just beginning ...........
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Re: Getting Nasty out there

PostBy: jpete On: Sun Aug 23, 2009 12:25 pm

Obama MAY(or may not) finish this country off. But he sure as sh*t didn't drive us down to this point and if you think he did then you just aren't being honest.

The decline has been coming for at least 100 years and a major component started in 1913 with the Federal Reserve. It was furthered by the New Deal and furthered again by the Great Society.

What we see today is just the result.

It would be like blaming one rainstorm for the Grand Canyon when it is the cumulative effect from ages of erosion.
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Re: Getting Nasty out there

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sun Aug 23, 2009 3:26 pm

tvb wrote:I wonder if Mr. Marine is willing to give up his government paid for and very efficiently gov't run VA benefits?


From what I'm reading the VA is only just now starting to get good reviews. The budget has doubled since 2000 but certainly a lot of that could be attributed to the War in Iraq and Afghanistan. I read one article on how they accomplishing this and one thing they doing is going to electronic records. The example they gave in the one article is the doctor comes into patient room and on a laptop he can pull up all the records of the patient so he has all the history of the patient right as his fingertips. Suppose he wants to prescribe a drug, he just enters it into the computer and the prescription is sent right to the pharmacy. The system would also alert him if the new prescription might interact with something else or pose a problem.

The pharmacy sends the drug to the nurses station (in the article they described a vacuum delivery system like at banks). The nurse enters the room and scans the UPC on the drug to make sure it is both the right drug and the right dosage.

What you have is highly efficient system and as a bonus you are eliminating many human errors that can occur. Wrong medication and dosages are apparently a big problem in a lot of hospitals. All this depends on electronic records. 25% of medical costs in this country are administrative. ;)
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Re: Getting Nasty out there

PostBy: jpete On: Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:24 pm

I don't mind electronic records, as long as the government isn't the one keeping them!

My local hospital must have done a direct port of ALL their records. I went to the ER for something and she wheeled in the cart with the computer to take all my info. She asked my name, then looked at me and said "Are you an employee?"

I WAS an employee about 15 years before that, but it seems they still had me in there!

Just remember the old computer term GIGO...."Garbage In Garbage Out".

A computer system is only as good as the person using the keyboard.
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