Getting Nasty out there

Getting Nasty out there

PostBy: Richard S. On: Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:15 am

Anybody see any of the footage? Here's one:



People are angry to say the least and really think this is going beyond just Republicans as the left is trying to portray it. I'm certain both are playing tricks. It's been suggested lots of people are being bussed to these town meetings but on the other hand I heard the town meeting following the one depicted in the video above with the same Rep was closed up before anyone even got there and they were letting people in a back door. It was small hall with 250 seats and most of the seats went to the people who set up the event.

We still have a month left of this? Hang on, it's going to be a ride.
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Re: Getting Nasty out there

PostBy: samhill On: Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:23 am

I really didn`t want to comment on this, mainly because I believe most on here will be in disagreement but here goes anyway. I think these meeting disruptions are a discredit to the Rep. party or any other group that is to say the least encourageing them. I even got a e-mail from Freedom Works that gives you a map of the local meetings & a list of statements, I guess they feel people are too dumb to ask their own questions in a polite manner. They say that doing this at meetings is expressing their right to freedom of speach but in doing so aren`t they denying others that just maybe want to learn something to become more informed so as to make their own decission? What ever happened to rules of parlamentary procedure of just plain good manners & respect? These people are dragging this country down to an even deeper low IMO, why don`t they have opposeing meetings to express what they feel are the wrongs & offer some allturnative solutions in a civilized manner? I`ve always tried to vote for who-ever I felt was the right person rather than in the party of choice, sometimes that led to not voteing. But that also is my right, I could never see how anyone is allowed to run on both tickets.Watching this crap is like watching a developing country trying to form a government, everyone that ever gets elected is supposed to be a representive of the people, but if a few disrupt meetings how are they to know (even if they don`t care what the people want) & more importantly how can the people get the answers they my want?
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Re: Getting Nasty out there

PostBy: Black_And_Blue On: Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:28 am

Just wait till the currency defaults, then the real fun will start.

http://www.peakprosperity.com/blog/fed- ... tion/23880
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Re: Getting Nasty out there

PostBy: ErikLaurence On: Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:22 am

I find it fascinating when people on medicare get up and complain about the government being involved in health care.

You want to see it get really nasty? Just kill medicare.
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Re: Getting Nasty out there

PostBy: spc On: Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:33 am

I think it's Medicare Plus seniors are worried about, they don't want the government being involved with destroying the "Plus" part.
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Re: Getting Nasty out there

PostBy: Richard S. On: Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:07 pm

Angry mob of senior citizens scares off AARP speaker... :roll:



Look out, the old people are mad.
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Re: Getting Nasty out there

PostBy: ErikLaurence On: Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:22 pm

Old people have single payer health insurance. The AARP people should ask them if what they're saying is that they want medicare discontinued.
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Re: Getting Nasty out there

PostBy: Richard S. On: Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:39 pm

Erik people want reform, what they don't want is another huge government run bureaucracy that is doomed to fail when you look at the track record. Fix the damn problem! Trouble is to do that they have to piss off a lot powerful organizations. Lawyers, Insurance Companies the AMA and drug companies just to name a few.

As I mentioned before just out of HS I was able to afford my own health insurance and a pretty decent plan too. Was a pretty big burden as I wasn't making much but it was attainable. I could never do that now if in the same situation. The solution is to go find out what has changed between then and now and fix it.
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Re: Getting Nasty out there

PostBy: samhill On: Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:17 pm

Sun it up in one word Richard , Greed , all around drug Co.s , ama, politicians all of them you mentioned along with everyone else that stands to make a quick buck for the least amount if any work. Thats why they all work hand in hand, its hard to get most things accomplished with-out using them & their having their hands out. Ever wonder why such a large % of politicians were lawyers?
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Re: Getting Nasty out there

PostBy: ErikLaurence On: Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:41 pm

I agree we need to address the problem. I for one don't think the government should be providing ANY health care. I support canceling medicare (it's never gonna happen, elderly have a great lobby). What I find ludicrous about this situation is the hypocrisy of people who not only have single payer health care provided, but also consume a huge percentage of the nation's health care resource, complaining about government health care for the rest of the population. The rest of the population who don't consume anywhere near the resources of the elderly.

The breakdown of expenditures by age is interesting.

Per capita annual health care cost by age bracket

0-18 $2,650
19-44 $3,370
45-54 $5,210
55-64 $7,787
65-74 $10,778
75-84 $16,389
85+ $25,691

Source: HHS http://www.cms.hhs.gov/NationalHealthEx ... AgePHC.asp

Health care won't be fixed until we accept in the end everyone dies.
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Re: Getting Nasty out there

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sat Aug 08, 2009 10:32 am

Interesting comparison here of the Republican "mob" and the Democrat "Demonstrators", note who has the hand written signs. ;) Even more interesting at least according to the reporter some of the health care supporters didn't even have a clue what there signs said because they could not read or even understand spoken English. :roll:

http://www.lookingattheleft.com/2009/08 ... ealthcare/

Edit: Even the "homemade" signs appear to be printed ...

http://www.lookingattheleft.com/wp-cont ... G_0064.jpg
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Re: Getting Nasty out there

PostBy: spc On: Mon Aug 10, 2009 3:53 pm

And the left is saying the grass roots opposition to health care is "astroturf". :lol:

"Health Care is a Human Right! Work for Healthcare Reform, $10-15 an hr"


http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/npo/1315447872.html
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.


BTW who is funding this?
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Re: Getting Nasty out there

PostBy: Richard S. On: Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:21 pm

spc wrote:
BTW who is funding this?


Looks as if they are partnered with a bunch of environmental groups:

http://www.fundforthepublicinterest.org/partners

The Fund’s list of partners reads like a Who’s Who of progressive politics. Over the past 25 years, we’ve teamed up with Sierra Club, Human Rights Campaign, U.S. PIRG, Environment California, Save the Children, Green Corps, Defenders of Wildlife, National Parks Conservation Association, Greenpeace—to name just a few. These organizations wanted to achieve one or more of their program objectives in the short-term, and they want the political and financial resources to have an impact down the road. They came to the right place.
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Re: Getting Nasty out there

PostBy: Richard S. On: Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:41 pm

Hmmm gets interesting at wikipedia...

Public Interest Research Group

Student PIRG chapters are typically funded through either a waiveable or a mandatory student fee assessed to each student at the college or university. However, this funding system is controversial due to the political nature of PIRG work. Nationally there were several attempts to remove the PIRG chapters from college campuses, with several being removed, several being retained by majority vote of the student bodies, and many student PIRG chapters reinstated on the contingency that they would solicit their funds directly from individual students rather than by addenda to tuition. Student fees are used only to support Students PIRG chapters.


And.........

Finally, the individual state PIRGs apply for and receive grants from a variety of different non-profit foundations, along with receiving disbursals of funding from grants received federally.


Appears to be the environmental nut job equivalent of Acorn.
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Re: Getting Nasty out there

PostBy: Richard S. On: Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:04 pm

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