The schizophrenia of Glenn Beck

Re: The schizophrenia of Glenn Beck

PostBy: ErikLaurence On: Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:11 pm

Black_And_Blue wrote:He's a self avowed Communist, should I elaborate?

Who else in the administration agrees with his agenda?

Do you agree with his agenda?

Does America agree with a radical agenda?

When people like David Horowitz and Pat Caddell voice profound concern for the Democratic party and ultimately this Country, are they to be dismissed as well?

ETA : The silence is deafening : http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/The-Van-Jones-non-feeding-non-frenzy-57271402.html



You're not answering the question.

What does a special adviser to the Council on Environmental Quality for green jobs do?

Don't just toss out red herrings. Tell us what he does.
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Re: The schizophrenia of Glenn Beck

PostBy: Black_And_Blue On: Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:17 pm

If it's a do nothing post, why is he there?
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Re: The schizophrenia of Glenn Beck

PostBy: ErikLaurence On: Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:21 pm

Black_And_Blue wrote:If it's a do nothing post, why is he there?



Because Washington is filled with do nothing jobs.

Washington was filled with do nothing jobs under Bush 2.

Washington was filled with do nothing jobs under Clinton.

Washington was filled with do nothing jobs under Bush 1.

Washington was filled with do nothing jobs under Reagan.

Giving your friends do nothing jobs is one of the perks of winning.



But I'll ask you an easier one. What does Nancy Sutley do?

Who is Nancy Sutley?

She's Van Jones' boss.


http://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/eop/ceq/chair/
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Re: The schizophrenia of Glenn Beck

PostBy: jeromemsn On: Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:23 pm

Just throwing my pennies out there but I think most of America has dismissed most of the government. People don't vote the best guy in they vote the best dollar value in. As long as Americans think the country will be stable thats who wins. But it's only a perceived stability, it's not real. A real American would put a stop to all the over spending that the government does and start doing what a government should do which is infrastructure and safety! Not giving countries money because they say we be friends. We have no friends so stop paying them to say it sheesh get over it government stop acting like your still in middle school and need a friend.
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Re: The schizophrenia of Glenn Beck

PostBy: Black_And_Blue On: Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:52 pm

You won't get an argument from me about do nothing positions or entire departments created for political power, both sides have abused the office and the Constitution for the better part of 100 years.

By continuing to ignore the questions surrounding a Presidential appointee, I can only assume a few things.

1. You are continuing a debate about a known quantity (Van Jones) for purposes of folly alone.
2. You haven't yet come to terms with the evidence.
3. You support his views and are actively trying to obfuscate the truth.

I'll give you the benefit of doubt and vote #2.

ETA : Erik, if you grant your FRIENDS a do nothing post in the WH, what does that say about Obama's choice in friends?
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Re: The schizophrenia of Glenn Beck

PostBy: ErikLaurence On: Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:57 pm

Black_And_Blue wrote:You won't get an argument from me about do nothing positions or entire departments created for political power, both sides have abused the office and the Constitution for the better part of 100 years.

By continuing to ignore the questions surrounding a Presidential appointee, I can only assume a few things.

1. You are continuing a debate about a known quantity (Van Jones) for purposes of folly alone.
2. You haven't yet come to terms with the evidence.
3. You support his views and are actively trying to obfuscate the truth.

I'll give you the benefit of doubt and vote #2.



What evidence of what? A self admitted felon/drug addict says so? Glenn can't even keep his story consistent within a single paragraph.

Glenn Beck is an uneducated, alcoholic, drug abusing, ex morning disk jockey. We're better off asking the guy at 7-11 his opinion.


edit:

Oh yeah, Glenn also has an axe to grind with Jones. After Glenn called the president a racist back in June Color of Change, the organization Jones used to work for, organized the first boycott of Beck's show.

Glenn Beck is going after Van Jones because Van Jones is costing Glenn money.
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Re: The schizophrenia of Glenn Beck

PostBy: ErikLaurence On: Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:59 pm

Black_And_Blue wrote:
ETA : Erik, if you grant your FRIENDS a do nothing post in the WH, what does that say about Obama's choice in friends?


That he's no different than Bush 2, Clinton, Bush 1, and Reagan.

But then I never said he was different than them.

You're the one arguing he's some kind of evil infiltrator trying to destroy America.
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Re: The schizophrenia of Glenn Beck

PostBy: Black_And_Blue On: Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:07 pm

Wow, just wow.

I think David Horowitz should know what a radical Communist is all about and his opinion should weigh heavy on ones mind.

Erik, I wish you well.
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Re: The schizophrenia of Glenn Beck

PostBy: ErikLaurence On: Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:09 pm

Black_And_Blue wrote:Wow, just wow.

I think David Horowitz should know what a radical Communist is all about and his opinion should weigh heavy on ones mind.



David Horowitz is an ex Marxist, why should we listen to him?

You clearly think people never change.
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Re: The schizophrenia of Glenn Beck

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:56 am

ErikLaurence wrote:Glenn Beck is going after Van Jones because Van Jones is costing Glenn money.

That is ridiculous, the man's ratings are soaring. Please explain how he is losing money because of VJ.
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Re: The schizophrenia of Glenn Beck

PostBy: Black_And_Blue On: Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:44 am

ErikLaurence wrote:
Black_And_Blue wrote:Wow, just wow.

I think David Horowitz should know what a radical Communist is all about and his opinion should weigh heavy on ones mind.



David Horowitz is an ex Marxist, why should we listen to him?

You clearly think people never change.


Horowitz has repudiated his Communist parents and his past actions. He supports individual freedom, rule of law, private property and limited government.

Van Jones has NOT renounced his statements and as recently as March of 2009(one month before being appointed) continues to advocate Marxist, redistributionist, revolutionary ideology.

The WH hasn't even renounced the revolting, racist comments made by Van Jones.

"Show me your friends and I will show you your future."
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Re: The schizophrenia of Glenn Beck

PostBy: ErikLaurence On: Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:12 am

coaledsweat wrote:
ErikLaurence wrote:Glenn Beck is going after Van Jones because Van Jones is costing Glenn money.

That is ridiculous, the man's ratings are soaring. Please explain how he is losing money because of VJ.



His audience does not pay him, advertisers pay him. Advertisers are leaving in droves. Ratings do not matter in media if you can't monetize them.

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/ ... 7920090813

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/advert ... 2009-08-14

http://www.nydailynews.com/money/2009/0 ... sers_.html

This is how the Glenn Beck show is losing money because of Van Jones.
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Re: The schizophrenia of Glenn Beck

PostBy: ErikLaurence On: Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:15 am

Black_And_Blue wrote:Van Jones has NOT renounced his statements and as recently as March of 2009(one month before being appointed) continues to advocate Marxist, redistributionist, revolutionary ideology.


You actually have no idea if that is true or not.

It's what Glenn says, and that's enough for you.

But Glenn also said Jones was arrested at the WTO and spent time in prison. That was not true.
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Re: The schizophrenia of Glenn Beck

PostBy: Black_And_Blue On: Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:35 am

Again, I ask that you look at the mans own words.

Americans do not embrace Marxist, redistributionist, revolutionaries.

Please tell us that you don't not support these views.
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Re: The schizophrenia of Glenn Beck

PostBy: ErikLaurence On: Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:55 am

Black_And_Blue wrote:Again, I ask that you look at the mans own words.

Americans do not embrace Marxist, redistributionist, revolutionaries.

Please tell us that you don't not support these views.



Americans are revolutionaries.
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