The schizophrenia of Glenn Beck

Re: The schizophrenia of Glenn Beck

PostBy: SMITTY On: Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:30 pm

Sad thing is, everyone would cry endlessly if we suggested a bus driver arm himself for the safety of everyone on board. Such is the world we live in now.... :roll:



jeromemsn wrote:Here is my explanation of what I said, If Beck or the others have a better way then run and make it better if not shut up!


When was the last time a man making less than $250K a year was elected to office??? Your argument has burst at the seams ....... Any "common man" couldn't even even get close to the presidency. That's a fact.

I have a better idea to run the country -- lets run the country in a way that benefits US, not the rest of the world -- I.E. environmental regulations that hand wealth to China at our expense. This new obsession with environmentalism is going to destroy this country in every way. Can't re-plate your chrome bumper because of environmental regulations? Sent it to China -- they'll do it for 75% less, SHIPPING INCLUDED!! :mad:
SMITTY
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Patriot Coal - custom built by Jim Dorsey
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III (not currently in use)
Coal Size/Type: Rice / Blaschak anthracite
Other Heating: Oil fired Burnham boiler

Re: The schizophrenia of Glenn Beck

PostBy: jeromemsn On: Sat Aug 29, 2009 4:42 am

Smitty, by the time a "common man" would build up enough "uncommon friends" to run for office he himself would not be a "common man" any longer. Besides a "common man" just doesn't seem to want to deal with all the nonsence that a high office brings. I sure don't, like I said limitations got to know your limitations, and I myself have many.
jeromemsn
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Keystoker 90 dvc
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman elite fireplace insert

Re: The schizophrenia of Glenn Beck

PostBy: Black_And_Blue On: Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:48 am

Can we discuss some of the questions raised regarding the people that have been appointed under this administration?

If the associations of these people are false, show it.

If the associations are true, admit it "Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."

ETA : If you want to bash Bush some more we can get that out the way too, because in the end, it leads to the same conclusion.
Black_And_Blue
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska 140


Re: The schizophrenia of Glenn Beck

PostBy: spc On: Sat Aug 29, 2009 11:06 am

Its not just the "czars" that love communism.



Congresswoman Diane E. Watson (d)
Fidel, "was one of the brightest leaders I have ever met"
spc
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: Pioneer

Re: The schizophrenia of Glenn Beck

PostBy: cabinover On: Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:42 pm

Jerome I don't believe I took anything out of context or tried to put words in your mouth. I simply answered some of your rant with my own thoughts on it, nothing more.

Fully understand the limitations thought and feel the same way at times but it stops at what I can do rather than my thinking. For instance I was not instructed when young like lots of guys on how to build things. I am a mechanic. It was better for me to fix trucks rather than build my garage. That's a limitation I can understand.

To let anyone do my thinking for me is not a limitation, it would be an impediment. I'm happy to listen to others opinions, and let's face it that's all we have, but then I sift through and throw out the bad ideas in accordance with my own thinking.
Maybe all of my thoughts are wrong.

I guess all you really wanted to say was that Glenn Beck or Rush ought to run for office and change things, and that's fine, but I didn't want to put words into your mouth.

I agree that all of the talking heads (on every side) are simply here to stir the pot and divide, effectively keeping the important stuff behind the curtain until it's too late to stop it.

Doesn't matter who's legislation it is if it's bad for us.
cabinover
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Hybrid Axeman Anderson 130
Baseburners & Antiques: Sparkle #12
Coal Size/Type: Pea, Buckwheat, Nut
Other Heating: LP Hot air. WA TX for coal use.

Re: The schizophrenia of Glenn Beck

PostBy: jeromemsn On: Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:54 pm

Cabinover, I agree with those statements!
jeromemsn
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Keystoker 90 dvc
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman elite fireplace insert

Re: The schizophrenia of Glenn Beck

PostBy: Black_And_Blue On: Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:43 pm

Crickets?

If Van Jones (The Green Czar) is no longer a self avowed communist, when did this "change" occur?

Did you see/hear the television program tonight? National Endowment of the Arts conference call tape recording?

White house held conference call with NEA members "suggesting" art, music and media that supports the presidents agenda.
Black_And_Blue
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska 140

Re: The schizophrenia of Glenn Beck

PostBy: Black_And_Blue On: Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:15 pm

Discuss :

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ff4_1251852009

Tape recording audio begins at 3:20 mark, guest appears later who recorded the event.

The whole show :









Black_And_Blue
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska 140

Re: The schizophrenia of Glenn Beck

PostBy: tvb On: Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:50 am

Once agan, those on the right take a IOIYAAR stance.

So the Obama admin sees the NEA as a potential propaganda outlet. Well, Bush the Elder politicized it to make the neo-cons happy by cutting funding when they didn't like the art it was funding. The republican congress in 1992 continued those cuts from pressure by organizations like the American Family Assn and the Falwells. Is there really that much of a difference between what these two admins are doing? http://www.publiceye.org/theocrat/Mappl ... hrono.html

Bush the younger did his fair share of propanganderizing as well. In order to sell George's Great War (so he could be remembered as a 'war time' preznit - remember?), the pentagon sent platoons of "consultants" out into the world to appear on just about every media out without disclosing who was really paying them.
http://www.freepress.net/pentagon_propaganda
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.


What about the cozy relationship the R's have with the Faux News Channel? Is that not propaganda?

How about the relationship the Bush Whitehouse had with Sinclair Broadcasting? Remember them?

They refused to air a NIghtline broadcast that was critical of the Iraq War. They also aired that anti-Kerry propaganda farce called "Stolen Honor" just before the the 2004 election. http://www.freepress.net/release/17. The Sinclair brothers are big-time republican donors and operatives. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Honor . I actually worked for one of them several years ago and while he was a nice enough guy, his political leanings and intent were well known even back then. http://www.reason.com/news/show/33936.html
tvb
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Alaska
Stove/Furnace Model: Channing III

Re: The schizophrenia of Glenn Beck

PostBy: franco b On: Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:13 am

tvb wrote:Once agan, those on the right take a IOIYAAR stance.

So the Obama admin sees the NEA as a potential propaganda outlet. Well, Bush the Elder politicized it to make the neo-cons happy by cutting funding when they didn't like the art it was funding. The republican congress in 1992 continued those cuts from pressure by organizations like the American Family Assn and the Falwells. Is there really that much of a difference between what these two admins are doing? http://www.publiceye.org/theocrat/Mappl ... hrono.html

Bush the younger did his fair share of propanganderizing as well. In order to sell George's Great War (so he could be remembered as a 'war time' preznit - remember?), the pentagon sent platoons of "consultants" out into the world to appear on just about every media out without disclosing who was really paying them.
http://www.freepress.net/pentagon_propaganda
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.


What about the cozy relationship the R's have with the Faux News Channel? Is that not propaganda?

How about the relationship the Bush Whitehouse had with Sinclair Broadcasting? Remember them?

They refused to air a NIghtline broadcast that was critical of the Iraq War. They also aired that anti-Kerry propaganda farce called "Stolen Honor" just before the the 2004 election. http://www.freepress.net/release/17. The Sinclair brothers are big-time republican donors and operatives. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Honor . I actually worked for one of them several years ago and while he was a nice enough guy, his political leanings and intent were well known even back then. http://www.reason.com/news/show/33936.html


Correct me if I am wrong, but this post seems to indicate it is alright for taxpayers to fund a propaganda arm of the government.

Richard
franco b
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: V ermont Castings 2310, Franco Belge 262
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood Modern Oak 114
Coal Size/Type: nut and pea

Re: The schizophrenia of Glenn Beck

PostBy: ErikLaurence On: Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:05 pm


Correct me if I am wrong, but this post seems to indicate it is alright for taxpayers to fund a propaganda arm of the government.

Richard



It is only called "propaganda" if it is the other party's message.
ErikLaurence
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Reading Lehigh
Stove/Furnace Model: LL Hyfire II w/heat jacket

Re: The schizophrenia of Glenn Beck

PostBy: mikeandgerry On: Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:57 pm

When new gathering organizations take sides, their news becomes propaganda.

The 2004 score on propaganda arms is (expressed as a ratio of major players): Left, 5; Right 1.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... paper_bias

It has only gotten worse. Newsweek has stooped to new lows in the last two years. Their new spin is basically to use "scientific" evidence and "facts" to "prove" that anyone who opposes their viewpoint is an idiot.
mikeandgerry
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman-Anderson Anthratube 130-M

Re: The schizophrenia of Glenn Beck

PostBy: jeromemsn On: Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:55 pm

News and I mean any news is nothing but propaganda as it is today. Richard put this forum up on the Internet to help people understand how to heat there house cheaply and effectively with coal, it's not on a news broadcast but is the best piece of news I have had in a long long time. Others have forums that let people help themselves but nope not on the news channels, not news worthy, won't bring in the big bucks that a station needs to pay the higher ups.

Those two reporters that were captured by North Korea I see are back in the news and I don't see why, I don't see why the North Koreans even let them go. They clearly trespassed on a country that none of us would dare travel to let alone get near even if we did go to South Korea. I guess they figure they wanted just a bit more mileage out of there trespass story, me I think they got what they deserved and the North Koreans should of kept them for 11 more years, I guess just like me the North Koreans just couldn't take them anymore.

News people make news any more, if there is no news they dream up something to keep them big bucks coming, and the news I see isn't worth the paper it's written on.
jeromemsn
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Keystoker 90 dvc
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman elite fireplace insert

Re: The schizophrenia of Glenn Beck

PostBy: tvb On: Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:02 pm

franco b wrote:
tvb wrote:Once agan, those on the right take a IOIYAAR stance.

So the Obama admin sees the NEA as a potential propaganda outlet. Well, Bush the Elder politicized it to make the neo-cons happy by cutting funding when they didn't like the art it was funding. The republican congress in 1992 continued those cuts from pressure by organizations like the American Family Assn and the Falwells. Is there really that much of a difference between what these two admins are doing? http://www.publiceye.org/theocrat/Mappl ... hrono.html

Bush the younger did his fair share of propanganderizing as well. In order to sell George's Great War (so he could be remembered as a 'war time' preznit - remember?), the pentagon sent platoons of "consultants" out into the world to appear on just about every media out without disclosing who was really paying them.
http://www.freepress.net/pentagon_propaganda
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.


What about the cozy relationship the R's have with the Faux News Channel? Is that not propaganda?

How about the relationship the Bush Whitehouse had with Sinclair Broadcasting? Remember them?

They refused to air a NIghtline broadcast that was critical of the Iraq War. They also aired that anti-Kerry propaganda farce called "Stolen Honor" just before the the 2004 election. http://www.freepress.net/release/17. The Sinclair brothers are big-time republican donors and operatives. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Honor . I actually worked for one of them several years ago and while he was a nice enough guy, his political leanings and intent were well known even back then. http://www.reason.com/news/show/33936.html


Correct me if I am wrong, but this post seems to indicate it is alright for taxpayers to fund a propaganda arm of the government.

Richard

I didn't say that but do you really think the pentagon "consultants" appearing on the various news broadcasts to sell the Iraq war were volunteers? Who do you think was paying them?
tvb
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Alaska
Stove/Furnace Model: Channing III

Re: The schizophrenia of Glenn Beck

PostBy: Black_And_Blue On: Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:45 pm

tvb wrote:
<snip> So the Obama admin sees the NEA as a potential propaganda outlet. <snip>l


Most certainly a conflict of interest, wagering it is ILLEGAL.
Black_And_Blue
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska 140