35.5mpg by 2016

35.5mpg by 2016

PostBy: Richard S. On: Wed Sep 16, 2009 2:32 pm

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/was ... nomy_N.htm

The rules would phase in with 2012 models, when the current rules end, and escalate so that by the 2016 model year, the industry would have to average the equivalent of 35.5 miles per gallon.

The administration estimates the rules would add an average of $1,100 to the price of a car but could save $3,000 on fuel over the vehicle's life.


Doesn't say if that includes pickups but if that is the case it's truly moronic ruling.
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Re: 35.5mpg by 2016

PostBy: Sting On: Wed Sep 16, 2009 4:30 pm

Have you looked at what is already in place for 2011 - One ton and larger Diesel trucks? :cry:
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Re: 35.5mpg by 2016

PostBy: Berlin On: Wed Sep 16, 2009 11:44 pm

all the new diesels in pickups suck; staged turbos (not for power, but for emissions) throttle plates, egr, catylists, urea injection... no way in hell i would buy a new diesel. I'll never sell my '99 powerstroke - 19 mpg highway/17city, from what i hear from the new powerstroke owners they're not coming close to that, i'm not sure how the other mfg's are doing, but no way in hell would i ever buy a new diesel that's been abused with emissions control equiptment to the point that it's getting half the milage it should. 390,000 miles- runs as good as new.
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Re: 35.5mpg by 2016

PostBy: SMITTY On: Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:12 am

Great way to help the ailing auto industry, aye?? :roll:

I think most of us truck owners couldn't give a damn about MPG. We need the truck to perform it's intended task for many years! What good is a truck with 200 HP but gets 35 MPG???? Or even 25 MPG???

We're going to be having flashbacks to the 1980's, when you had to put the pedal to the floor just to maintain highway speed on hills. & forget about merging here in MA with our 50 foot on-ramps!

More ingenious & well-thought-out solutions from the gov't! :?
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Re: 35.5mpg by 2016

PostBy: Duengeon master On: Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:27 am

Berlin wrote:all the new diesels in pickups suck; staged turbos (not for power, but for emissions) throttle plates, egr, catylists, urea injection... no way in hell i would buy a new diesel. I'll never sell my '99 powerstroke - 19 mpg highway/17city, from what i hear from the new powerstroke owners they're not coming close to that, i'm not sure how the other mfg's are doing, but no way in hell would i ever buy a new diesel that's been abused with emissions control equiptment to the point that it's getting half the milage it should. 390,000 miles- runs as good as new.
I saw a 2.5 gal bottle of urea at the TA in Branford, Ct. a few weeks ago. It cost $15.00. The man behind the counter said 2.5 gals will last about 2 weeks in a big truck. :( Hey you all voted for change, I hope you are happy with it. :mad:
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Re: 35.5mpg by 2016

PostBy: cabinover On: Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:29 am

[quote="SMITTY"]

We're going to be having flashbacks to the 1980's, when you had to put the pedal to the floor just to maintain highway speed on hills. & forget about merging here in MA with our 50 foot on-ramps!

[/& quote]

Look at it this way Smitty, all the passing traffic will be going slow as well so egress will be much easier :D
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Re: 35.5mpg by 2016

PostBy: oros35 On: Thu Sep 17, 2009 2:20 pm

Well at least it makes the value of my old dirty vehicles go up when nobody can afford or want a new one.
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Re: 35.5mpg by 2016

PostBy: Sting On: Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:29 pm

Buy those new pick up truck tires soon

here is the other Other Shoe Drop :D

http://rumors.automobilemag.com/6555313 ... index.html
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Re: 35.5mpg by 2016

PostBy: beemerboy On: Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:04 pm

Sting wrote:Buy those new pick up truck tires soon

here is the other Other Shoe Drop :D

http://rumors.automobilemag.com/6555313 ... index.html


Funny, the Chinese complaining about protectionism. Try selling an American product in China.
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Re: 35.5mpg by 2016

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:43 pm

beemerboy wrote:Funny, the Chinese complaining about protectionism. Try selling an American product in China.

Buick is the best selling import in China.
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Re: 35.5mpg by 2016

PostBy: Richard S. On: Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:15 pm

coaledsweat wrote:Buick is the best selling import in China.



Buick has excellent product, I had a 1986? century with a 3.3 that we bought with about 80K on it. I sold it with about 198K and it still ran great. Biggest investment was struts. I'm pretty sure everything on the engine was original equipment except the alternator which promptly died just as I got on the Chesapeake Bay bridge. :lol: By the time I got off it was starting to sputter and I just made it to gas station. Only reason I sold it was because the paint was falling off and it was just beat up...
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Re: 35.5mpg by 2016

PostBy: SMITTY On: Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:27 am

Wife had the same car with about 160K on the clock. Rode like a couch, nice & smooth. We ended up donating it to a charity after the ignition module died -- I was all set working on that thing. Everything was a 12 hour job -- a bit to crowded under the hood for my tastes! But the car served her well for over 10 years. 8-)
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Re: 35.5mpg by 2016

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:42 am

That car ran so good I bought another but I upgraded to the Regal with a 3.8, took my brother down to Philly about two weeks ago. What a pleasure that car is on the open road. Zipping along about 90 you just want to go faster. :P I had it up around 110 once, still smooth as glass and didn't even feel fast.
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Re: 35.5mpg by 2016

PostBy: samhill On: Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:56 am

My son just bought a crown vic retired police car from Arizona. You talk about sailing, this car even has a hours meter on it & when you average out the millage & hours the average is a little over 70 mph. Not too mention how much fun it is watching people mash on their brakes when they see it.
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Re: 35.5mpg by 2016

PostBy: whistlenut On: Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:45 am

Ever wonder how you are going to get the Escalade with 405 HP to achieve much of a fuel mileage improvement?

Tow it with a 600HP Pete/towmotor in a caravan of Guzzlers?

That 600 HP Pete will have the same output as a old Cummins 250 with all the 'cow urine injection bag' hitched upon it.
If you think emissions were a problem to repair on you current vehicle....hold on to the bamboo tree that is growing in the back yard to see "What's UP NEXT!

The nuclear fuel cell transporter may be closer than we think. Did the 'Common Sense Express' derail into the ocean? Did every person with some degree of common sense pass away, or are they being detained/restrained at or under the DMC headquarters?

:eek2: :fear: :woot: :sick: :cry2: :stretcher: :crutch: :wtf:
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